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Thank you.   I was beginning to think it was me.  I mentioned this fact to
my state association.  Talking about advocacy amongst ourselves is not
helpful.  We need to start at the universities and work with teacher
training programs and administrator programs.  If we are not mentioned
during the entire college experience and the administrators don't know what
we do, it is hard to convince a teacher - new or experienced.

Susan Williams
Media Specialist
Strafford School
Strafford, NH 03884

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Carrie Fox Fox <foxc@sparksd.org> wrote:

> I agree.  When I was in my MLIS program those students who did not yet have
> their B.A. of Education said they were constantly piping in during their
> Education classes to inform their fellow students (and the professor) how
> the LMS can be an asset to the classroom teacher and curriculum.
>
> That's just what we have to do every day... keep plugging away!
>
> >>> "Sarles Patricia (18K500)" <PSarles@SCHOOLS.NYC.GOV> 03/24/09 4:47 PM
> >>>
>  I think there needs to be a "How to Collaborate with the School
> Librarian" course in education degree programs, or a "How to Utilize the
> School Library in Order to Maximize your Required Assignments to Students,"
> course or something like that.
>
> Ed supervisors need to take courses like this as well.
>
> _____________________________________
> Patricia Sarles, MA, MLS
> Librarian
> Damrosch Day Treatment School
> NYC Department of Education
> 750 Jennings Street
> Bronx, NY 10459
> voice: 718 378-0006 x2172
> fax: 718 589-9544
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>
> "Ten guards and the warden couldn't have torn me out of those books. Months
> passed without even thinking about being imprisoned....I had never been so
> truly free in my life." - Malcolm X
>
> "Some kids go to the library ... Others to the street. But they can't go to
> the libraries if the libraries are closed." - Officer Dombranski, NYPD
>
> "The best morals kids get from any book is just the capacity to empathize
> with other people, to care about the characters and their feelings. So you
> don't have to write a preachy book to do that.  You just have to make it a
> fun book with characters they care about, and they will become better people
> as a result." - Louis Sachar
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: School Library Media & Network Communications on behalf of Kay Goss
> Sent: Tue 3/24/2009 4:41 PM
> To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: VENT: Term Papers and Why Don't Teachers?
>
> Dear Great, Wise, and Patient Ones:
>
> Term papers drive me crazy. First of all, teachers give students way too
> much time to complete papers--especially the research phase. And they do
> not
> guide the research. They do not have me present the research process and
> they just turn the kids loose to Google their topics.
> I do have a research lesson on using print resources, the reader's guide,
> ebscohost, and the best websites for various subjects and topics. I have a
> planning your library project handout for teachers. I have a research
> rubric. But only one teacher takes advantage of these.
> And the assigned paper is usually all that is being done in those classes.
> I
> remember when I taught term papers to seniors, we went ahead with our
> literature, grammar, spelling, and writing in class. Very little time was
> given to research or typing during class time.
> They send the same kids day after day to goof off. And those are the kids
> who have 10 overdue items. Why are the teachers not asking to see copies of
> their research materials or what they wrote/typed that day?
>
> Ugh!
>
>
> --
> Kay Goss
> Mansfield Secondary Library
> 316 West Ohio Ave.
> Mansfield, Mo. 65704
> 417-924-3236 Ext. 311
> goss.kay@gmail.com
>
> "The person, be it gentleman or lady, who has not pleasure in a good novel,
> must be intolerably stupid."
> Jane Austen
>
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