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Thanks to the folks who replied to my plea for help- here is my original question followed by replies: Hello all, I'm preparing to make a presentation to the elementary principals in my district in an effort to convince them to purchase a district-wide database bundle. It's a screaming deal- $1/student/year and includes an extensive EBSCO collection, World Book's Complete Reference Suite, and Encyclopedia of BC's entire database. The elementary principals are hesitant to "OK" this deal since they are unable to see how it would benefit elementary students (we're on a "school-based budgeting" model around here; however, we need full buy-in from the district to get the deal). There are plenty of resources available for younger students, including Primary Search, Middle Search Plus, World Book Kids and Novelist (K-8). Besides proving that the resources are worthy, I am wondering if anyone knows of any research in support of database use in an elementary setting? Any comments, suggestions, redirection, or testimonials would be very helpful! I need to have this together for Monday the 30th. Thanks in advance, Tina Sherlock Teacher Librarian Mamquam Elementary School Squamish, BC Canada Sea to Sky School District No.48 tsherlock@sd48.bc.ca ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ My principal said almost exactly the same thing. He couldn't see how often we could use it, and that our public library system has quite a few free for those in the city. The problem I have also has to do with my own lack of education on the subject. I've never taken a course on databases, and I can only grab a few professional growth hours each year. If you hear of anything available "out there" for free / next to free that would offer quick and dirty training in this, let us all know about it please! Best wishes on receiving your funding, and be sure to keep us posted on which arguments worked for you. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ We have World Book Online this year and the fourth graders are finding it very useful for biography research. We are also going to try Boolean searching on it today, not sure if it will support it. Our fifth grade is doing art research and found it to be better than doing a wide search because you don't get useless hits. The way the results are organized is very logical and often gives you what you need in the top three search choices. I will be using it with our third graders shortly when we do solar system research and I am looking forward to that because when we did it with selected resources last year the readability of some of the solar system sites was too challenging for them to learn from or get the details of the information available. Using World Book Online has saved time in that we don't have to winnow suitable sites for students and they aren't getting useless when they do a broad search. It's written for students which is not true of most of the websites online today and that saves time and aggravation. It took them about 15 minutes after a tutorial to be able to navigate successfully so the learning curve is good as well. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ You might look to see what your local educational standards say. I know our TEKS (Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills) states that from 3rd grade on, students need to be actively exposed to research in all forms. Definitely by 5th grade, kids should be doing research, which includes online research. Perhaps stating that, with this service, you can do away with buying new encyclopedia sets every 5 years, as online EB is updated regularly, would help, since those sets are so darned expensive.... ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ How about the argument for access to professional resources fro teachers? That's what worked with my administrators! I shared the cost of our prof journals and the cost for the db subscription. Voila! __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I have free access to Ebsco, SIRS, etc. through our power library program through the state of PA Our students use databases extensively. I would be lost without them. It has broadened our students knowledge, enabled them to learn advanced searching techniques, and improve the end product of their research. Plus, these are the skills they will need to succeed in high school and college. I can forward you my usage statistics if you would like. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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