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My favorite Brother Heretic, Your words, as usual are completely correct. I learned theory in school, real life on the job. Even though all of my career I have been a department of one, the librarians in my district have shared and taught each well through the years. thanks for your wise insight once again. Sharon Harmon, LMS Ozark Jr. High Ozark, MO -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Dr. Allan O'Grady Cuseo Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: [LM_NET] TAR: Librarians hired before degree complete? Let me be the heretic here -- and I speak as a former Instructor at 2 Graduate Library Schools. I have a BLS, a MLS and a PhD - all in library - and most of what I know I learned on the job. True - I learned from the best librarians - both on the job and at SUNY/Geneseo and Columbia University School of Library Service. But, it was my practicum experience (in those days we went out for a full semester) where I learned the most. Library schools are great to learn the philosophy of service, the history of the profession, etc. BUT, it was the practicum experience and my first years (1963-1965 probably) where i learned the practical stuff - how to run a reference desk, how to run a circulation desk, how to interact with the problem patron, and how to adapt a lesson to meet all the needs of the students. I was just discussing this matter with one of our counselors today and also with our social worker - how does the teacher learn how to work with the bipolar student, the student who refuses to work in groups as he/she has no social skills, the student who is drunk or stoned, the student who has experienced abuse, etc. There is nothing like on-the-job training - but it should be with a dedicated, passionate, and service-oriented librarian (who is also a fantastic teacher). I am not sure I would have made it if I had been thrown into a position where I was the only librarian - and I had the BLS. and was working on my MLS. That is not to say it can't happen but I am glad it didn't happen to me. Allan Dr. Allan O'Grady Cuseo, MGC Director of Library Services Bishop Kearney High School | A Golisano Education Partner 125 Kings Highway South Rochester, New York 14617 585.342.4000 x231 585.342.4694 (fax) acuseo@bkhs.org www.bkhs.org College Prep. Plus. -----Original Message----- From: "ELLINGSON, ALISSA 1" [aellingson1@KLEINISD.NET] Date: 05/07/2009 10:32 AM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: [LM_NET] TAR: Librarians hired before degree complete? Hello All: I am wondering how many of you were hired as librarians before you had finished your MLS degree. I just interviewed and this seemed to be one of her worries. Any thoughts or suggestions as to how to help her with her decision? How many of you started off this way? What challenges did you face? How did you overcome them? Happy Thursday! Miss Alissa Ellingson Krimmel Intermediate 6th Grade ELA Klein, TX aellingson1@kleinisd.net "Books are the quietest and most constant of friends; they are the most accessible and wisest of counselors, and the most patient of teachers." > > Charles W. Eliot > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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