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I think the three points listed in your post are good ones. But there is one more we should all keep in mind and that is talk directly to the teacher about the problems you are having with the three students and ask her opinion about what can be done. Some students like this have very specific consequences spelled out for them. Sometimes if the teacher scolds the three who misbehave that will end your problems. Sending them off with the teacher really doesn't do anything to help you cope with them and if they are in kindergarten you are going to have them for many long years ahead. You are the one who needs to gain control. This is accomplished when the students being to show respect. I had two large sections of kindergarten myself today and I had to move one young fellow. But they are doing so much better than they were two weeks ago when school started. That's one good thing about kids, they can learn the rules and make great improvements. Just keep in mind the naughty ones maybe the ones who need you the most. Kathy Geronzin, District Librarian Northeast Community School District 3690 Hwy # 136 Goose Lake, IA 52750 phone 319-577-2249 FAX 319-577-2248 e-mail: geronzin@hobbes.caves.net The opinions expressed are my own. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.html See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=