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Hi all, I want to thank wholeheartedly the group of people who took the time to really give honest and valuable feedback to this question. I can now confidently bring facts to a meeting which should help lighten the learning curve in the decision making process. Thank you for all the time you have saved me and my colleagues. Responses: I have loved Destiny for the TitlePeek and patron "self empowerment"-Holds, recommending books and book reviews. It is great that kids can see their checkouts (with individual log-ins) and Webpath Express has offered a safe way for our kids to search the Internet. My old Dolphin scanner still works and I love that I can access the program from home. Problems-I had to manually enter 450 log-ins because we couldn't figure how to do it in batches. There have been a few other snags (can't think of them right now), but overall I feel the benefits far outweigh the learning curve needed to make use of all the features of Destiny. Caitlin Hooker PreK-8 Librarian St. Gabriel's Catholic School Austin, Texas caitlin.hooker@sgs-austin.org We switched this year. I have had a problem with having to wait 20+ minutes each time I call for technical support. Also,it is internet based and we are having a problem with it being very slow due to our server and too many people online throughout the county. All in all, it was a smooth switch. Donna W. Young Library Media Specialist Powhatan Jr. High School Powhatan, VA. I am currently reading Porcupine by Meg Tilley. We migrated to Destiny from Follett's Circ/Cat last October. We're disappointed everyday with how Destiny searches (not a true, easy key word search like Circ/Cat) and how holds and ILLS are handled (a teacher can not place a hold or ILL for more than 1 copy of a book- not great for teachers looking for multiple copies for reading groups or partner reading). In many ways, Circ Cat was a more librarian friendly program. Further, the Destiny trainers put most of the control for the program in the hands of the tech staff, with the implication that librarians didn't/couldn't understand how the database was managed. Our district professional staff has had to argue for self-determination... we did not want nonlibrarians making decisions about such issues as material loan periods or cataloging and classification. In hindsight, we wished we had gone with Alexandria or Sirsi's I Bistro...but our network administrator strongly felt Destiny was the way to go. We didn't investigate the aqua browser offered by Queens Public Library... but we should have! Take a look: http://aqua.queenslibrary.org/. One thing to consider... how many tech posts do you see here at LM_Net regarding Alexandria or I-Bistro? How many do you see regarding Destiny? There's a big difference, for a reason. Good luck with whatever you decide. Shannon Shannon Walters Library Media Specialist C.P. Smith School Burlington, Vermont 05401 swalters@bsdvt.org (802) 864-2228 We had Spectrum and were happy with it. But time marches on and now we have Destiny. I like the home page feature on which you can enter any url and it will be available to anyone at school or at home. I just found out about Destiny's easy cataloging of unprocessed materials. Scan the ISBN on the appropriate page and the book appears so that you can enter it in your collection and edit the page as needed. The web pages listed after a list of books in the catalog is very useful. They have been selected and reviewed by Follett. We received training, but it iwas done very fast.We started using Destiny in September and have been learning by doing. Judy We switched from Athena just over two years ago. The big thing I noticed is how easy it is to catalog new materials in Destiny with Alliance Plus. It's rare now that I have to send an item to my teacher librarian (who is at a different site) to be cataloged from scratch. I also like the customizable letters you can send home to parents. Granted, there is a portion you can't change like the item information, but everything else can be changed to suit different notification needs. I have an overdue materials letter, a Spanish overdue materials letter, an end of the year overdue materials letter, an end of the year overdue textbook materials letter, etc. I can save the format and just change who the letter goes to. And along with that is the Job Manager that allows you to see what will print without you having to actually print it. On anything you generate. Lisa Huddleston Library Media Technician Webster Elementary School Madera, CA lhuddleston@gvusd.k12.ca.us I've used SIRS, Athena, Circ/Cat, and Destiny. By far, Destiny is the best product I've used. We moved to Destiny 6 years ago and have never regretted it. We have had great luck with tech support, and they are very receptive to our ideas as we've seen many features added with each upgrade. It is easy for all to use, so I would highly recommend it. Carl After using Spectrum's CIRC/CAT for 9 years, last month our district switched to Destiny. So far, so good ! We certainly haven't learned how to use ALL of it's features, but we are finding it pretty user-friendly. Earlier this week I called Tech Support for the first time to ask a question and had an immediate answer. I also e-mailed Tech Support for a problem and had an answer within a few hours. We've not yet had an opportunity to try the solution as it's really an issue for our I.T. guy. Our trainer was AWESOME - very informative, patient and helpful. There were some breakdowns in communication during the buying/setup time line, but not all of the breakdowns were caused by Follett (some were self-induced, I'm afraid to admit). I would strongly suggest that you meet with reps from the companies/products you're considering. We hosted a "demo day" and had 4 vendors show us their products and then made our decision from there. Honestly, right now I can say we have no regrets (and I hope it remains that way). Diane Diane Lungaro, library media specialist dianelu@yahoo.com Sussex Middle School Sussex-Wantage Regional Schools District Sussex, NJ 07461 IMHO, circ/cat systems are like school administrations. Some accomplish certain functions so well, but are clueless in other areas. We migrated from Spectrum last spring. It has been a bumpy road of discovery, but, on balance, Destiny is worth it. You might want to visit a neighboring school that is using Destiny and take it for a spin. Best regards, Martin Swist (from Stamford & Fairfield, Conn.) mswist@asij.ac.jp Middle School LMS Middle School XC Coach The American School In Japan 1-1-1 Nomizu, Chofu-shi, Tokyo Mary E. 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