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Experience has shown me that fines do not work. Students without resources will refuse to take books out rather than face the fines. Students with resources will look at it as a rent so they do not feel guilty about keeping books out and inconveniencing others. What works best is to deny the right to take out other books to students who have books overdue. The punishment :) suits the crime. Bill Adkins badkins@minet.gov.mb.ca Oak Park High School Wimmipeg, MB, Canada