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I have a year 10 student in my school who has a wonderful knowledge of DOS. In the past he has used the attrib command and I have learnt a lot from him and from manuals to keep up with him. He is a great programmer and has been helpful in keeping the computers running. At the moment he has found a way of labelling a file with what looks like a blank in front of the file name. I can see those files exist when I type the dir command but I can't read them or delete them. Does anyone know what the character could be? We have a security program called PC Lockout on one computer and it saves a lot of time and work but at times it has caused the computer to crash. Even with those few crashes I would recommend it. Joan McKay AME School, Canberra, Australia Joan.McKay@cs.anu.edu.au