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I guess I was unclear myself of the comparison of words. Mel's origins came fro m the book "Origins" which I definitely need to buy as I am always curious about word origins. I will check with the teacher and make sure she understood there is no connection between words. I think with all the different comments a perso n can see why we could suppose the two could have blended in our language. His re sponse to me is below: From: Mel Roseman Subject: Re: Poop From: mel@LAFN.ORG Dale, I guess that I didn't make myself clear when I wrote you earlier about poop(1) and poop(2). As a result, readers may mistakenly continue to confuse the two words and try to create a new "folk etymology" that combines the two different words into a new one. There are two entirely different words that are homographs (words that are spelled the same but are different) They are also accurately called homonyms. Think of wind (air movement) and wind (twist) as examples. poop(1) - stern of a ship from Latin poop(2) - fart from Middle Dutch (to bubble) There is no connection at all between the two words. I'm sorry I didn't make this more clear when I first wrote you. Sincerely, - Mel Roseman Thanks Mel, from Sandy Haggstrom (looks like my husbnd didn't change the from ag ain after reading his messages on my mailbox).