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THIS IS PART 2 OF MY HIT -- Marcia Kemble
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From: Pat Wilber <WILBER@4j.lane.edu>
Marcia: Here at South Eugene High School we keep the students' lib id cards
on a large rolodex that sits on the circulation desk. Students do not carry
their
cards with them. We switched from an archaic system to this one in
September when we computerized our library. Each rolodex card comes with
the picture of the student (taken on regis day in Sept) and a place to affix
the
patron bar code number. The picture helps to identify the student, and
keeping the cards in the library prevents forgetting the card, loaning the
card
to others, and trying to check materials out on someone else's "account".
The
students like the system A LOT, and I am finding that it is eliminating the
many problems we had with our old system. The rolodex cards are provided,
at a cost of course, by the company who takes the regis pictures in the fall.
Pat Wilber
SEHS
Eugene, Oregon 97405
wilber@4j.lane.edu
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From: Lois J Roberts <lrobert@eis.calstate.edu>
Dear Janet--Joann also asked a similiar question recently. We have the
barcodes and current picture on a rolodex at the desk so we can check if
wehave a question about identity. Our population is fairly stable (about
1100) and I try really hard to know who the kids are....we don't ask for
ID to enter, but it's an idea...
Lois Roberts BOD Oakland, CA lrobert@eis.calstate.edu
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From: Riverton High School <riverton@eagle.sangamon.edu>
I use student I.D. cards at our high school for book check outs, but I
keep the students' cards on a rolodex file with their bar codes. These
bar codes are only good for library usage (no other applications). I
have found that this works very well for me. We only have about 360
students in our school though. The guidance office keeps me informed
when a student drops or adds, so I can keep my files up-to-date. I
don't let students check out books on anyone else's card. I hope this
helps you.
Connie Holliday
Riverton High School Media Specialist
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From: PUB_HOLPAT@midyork.lib.ny.us
We solve that problem simply by having all the names and barcodes together
On a rolladex at the desk.
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From: Mary Ellen Scribner <scribner@tenet.edu>
In our high school of almost two thousand students we are very strict
about requiring the student ID card for book checkout. No card-no
books. We too could type in the name but with such a large student body
there is no way we can know all the students by name, and they would
certainly take advantage of that if we did not firmly enforce the ID
rule. We do not check IDs at the door; there isn't really a need. We do
require lunch passes which we begin issuing every morning as soon as we
open. We have three lunch periods, and with classes continuing through
each of those periods we have to limit the number of lunch passes
according to the number of classes signed up to use the library during
each period.
Mary Ellen Scribner
Westwood High School
Round Rock ISD, TX
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From: Martha Kuss <mkuss@eis.calstate.edu>
At Crawford High we do require that all students have their student ID
cards in hand before they may check out library or textbooks. This is
enforced uniformly whether we are acquainted with the student or not.
The ID card has the picture of the student, but we maintain the barcode
on a rolladex file rather than on the back of the ID. This eliminates
the need to issue a new barcode and change all the material which has
been checked out to the student if the ID is lost. The first ID is
provided free, the first replacement costs $3 and any additional
replacements are $5. Before we instituted the charge students were
giving their ID's to their Girl or Boy friends as a memento.
Hope this is helpful.
Martha Kuss
Crawford High School
Library/Media Center
San Diego, CA 92115
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From: espusr03@llkcts.ll.pbs.org (Karl Lundberg)
> their library patron number. Many students show up at the desk, though,
with
> books to check out but without their cards. We can type their names in and
"Sorry! No card, no books. If you bring your card tomorrow, we'll be
happy to check out these books to you."
> Along the same lines, do any of you require students to flash their cards
> upon entering the library, so that they can't even enter if they don't have
> their student/library cards with them? If you do this, has it worked for
Students are welcome to use the library resources, with or without
their ASB cards. Cards are required for checkout only. 8{)K
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From: sl05561@llwnet.ll.pbs.org (Tottenville HS)
We also request students to show their program card to borrow books. If
they don't have their program card, we usually will accept any other
reasonable ID: bus pass, driver's license, public library card, etc. I
nthis way we cut down on (but don't eliminate) the possibility of them using
their friend's name.
We also require students to show their program card to enter the
library (so that we can see that they are not cutting a class) or have a
pass from a teacher. Of course, in a school of almost 4,000 we don't always
catch everyone entering, but again, it cuts down on the problems. (To make
it easier for us to determine if a student is free the period that they want
to come into the library, we have big number stamps with which we stamp
their program cards --after checking-- so that the next time we just have to
see our #3 and know that if this is 3rd period, this student is free to come
in.)
Linda Strauss
Tottenville H.S. Library
100 Luten Avenue
...peeking over the edge of technology. Staten Island, NY 10312
SL05561@llwnet.ll.pbs.org
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From: "Valorie C. Ritenour" <ritenour@umd5.umd.edu>
Hi Marcia or Marcia's sister! We're ready to automate and issue
cards to kids but in questioning other librarians in my area, I've
found the best solution to forgotten cards is to keep either color-
coded catalog cards with the kids bar codes on them at the desk or
on a Roll-a-Dex (sp?) file. Our kids have student ID cards which
they are supposed to carry at all times as well as cafeteria "credit
cards", so I'm intending to require one of those for kids whom I don't
know. I'll see how it works.
Val Ritenour Loch Raven High School Towson, MD
Internet ritenour@ynd5.umd.edu
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From: Cheryl Bybee <cbybee@TENET.EDU>
We are a middle school, but handle this much the same way as Joyce
Miller. We insist on the card, but will hold the book for a day if the
student forgot his/her card. Last year we were quite lenient and
frankly, we probably had to type in the name or number much more often
than scan a card. We decided to begin this year by really holding the
line. As the year progressed we found that it was hardly ever a
problem--because the students KNEW that we meant it. If a student loses
a card we charge 50 cents, order a new card from central office, and
allow the student to check out books without a card until the new one is
received. We remind students of the need to carry identification to
drive, cash checks and even to use the public library. Luckily for us,
the high schools in our district are also very strict about student
ID's...in fact, it is stated in the district-wide student handbooks for
high school that a student must be able to show his id card whenever a
teacher or school employee asks to see it, so we tell our kids that it is
just something to get used to and a matter of being mature and
responsible. The key, in my opinion, is really sticking to it in the
beginning...then it becomes routine.
Cheryl Bybee, Stinson Middle School
cbybee@tenet.edu, San Antonio, TX
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From: Don Farmer <dfarmer@eis.calstate.edu>
I am rather strict about library cards--my feeling is -- if you let one
do it, why not others, unless there is a compelling reason for no ID
card, I generally put the book/item on "hold" and let them pick it up
later. Exceptions at first of school year when all ID cards have not
been issued, etc. but generally we hold pretty fast to this rule. Most
students reluctantly agree it is fair (but can't you make an exception
for me--I won't tell anyone else?? Yes, but I'LL KNOW) ;-)
==========Don Farmer==========
Fountain Valley High School Library
17816 Bushard Street
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
714 962-3301 Voice//FAX 714 964 0491
+++++++dfarmer@ctp.org++++++++++
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From: "Linda K. Roshon-Harville" <lroshon@eis.calstate.edu>
In our library we require students to show their student body cards (that
have their barcode and picture) or we look them up in our rolodex file.
That file has the student barcode number (scanable ) and a picture of the
student. Even so we sometimes have students that manage to check out
books on their friends card because they have a fine or an overdue book.
Sigh...We just do our best to discourage the borrowing of cards by never
knowlingly accepting another's barcode card.
Hope this helps. Linda Roshon , librarian
lroshon@eis.calstate.edu
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From: Sherry Teller Ogburn <sogburn@tenet.edu>
This year we have become very strict in requiring that students
show us their school id (with picture) or driver's license or school id
number (7 digits --Other students aren't likely to know an individual's
id number). This procedure has been a tremendous help in eliminating
students checking out books in other students' names.
We do not require students to have an id to get into the library,
but they must have a pass from a teacher if it is during school hours.
I will look forward to seeing your HIT>
Sherry Ogburn sogburn@tenet.edu
Langham Creek HS
Houston, TX
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From: lgreenwo@llnj.ll.pbs.org (Linda Greenwood)
We do request ID cards for check out and stick to it. We have slips of
paper ready for the student who does not have their ID cards. The students
write their name and date on the slip and we save the books. Students seem
to like this service IF they do not need the book immediately. When
teachers book the library for checking out books, we ask them to remind
their students to bring their ID cards. We make one exception to
this...seniors are allowed to check out without their ID cards. We have not
had a problem with the system. I do stress that we make no exceptions to
this rule. If a student lost their card, we require $1 and a 1 day wait for
a new ID card. That solves the problem of students willing to pay a $1 to
check out a book right away. Good luck.
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