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I apologize! I was interrupted by some (I guess) "modem noise". To complete the message I was trying to send below, I believe that the internet has many good resources. But many parents will not train their children to use them, and the trappings of this culture do not seem to emphasize good taste. Perhaps "taste" rather than censorship needs to be a looked at for the internet. Many seem to fear "someone else" making that decision, but *some* selectivity seems warranted! Just look at NetNews sometime, and see how many violent or erotic sites are offered.We just might be able to do without them. If Christ can be eliminated from the holiday that owes its modern existence to him, I do not understand why people are so anxious to "protect" the "right" to bad taste! Does anyone else notice these incongruities? Please allow me one more example: a few years ago, I was teaching college prep world history for 10th-11th graders, with a few seniors. During the course of the year, as we studied the various world cultures, I brought in speakers from many different faiths and backgrounds. I had a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, an atheist, an agnostic, a "New Ager", a follower of the Jewish faith, and, at the end of the year, a Christian. All year I worried that I would get complaints or trouble from the religious conservatives that I had heard so much about. I had been warned! But, nothing! Not a peep! No criticism, no whining to my principal, no interrupt-my-supper phone calls. No, there was never any censorship of my attempt to highlight the influence of many faiths in world history-that was fine! I got compliments for my attention to multiculturalism! But, the day after the Christian speaker addressed my classes......he did no exhortation! Nothing but what the others had done, which was to provide a history of the faith and its structures. My phone rang off the hook that night. Parents had called my principal the next morning! Some members of the community felt that this speaker jeopardized the rights of their children! Rights to what? Know that religion has had a strong effect on the course of human history? Duh! Ever since that day, in 1988, I have watched our culture on what often seems an arbitrary course of "jousting at windmills": fighting great battles "for" so-called intellectual freedoms while also fighting great battles to suppress the religious freedoms ALSO guaranteed by our Constitution.Are these examples "apples and oranges"? I think not. I think we need to think carefully about the license we give our youth, while we seem to fear that no adult is capable of deciding *anything* for them. It is a shame that we doubt our own competence as educators and parents, and it shows. If you don't want to post me at the lm_net, my e-mail address is: Alice Newman <an17400@conrad.appstate.edu>. Thanks for taking the time to read and think about these issues. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:08:09 -0400 From: alice newman <an17400@conrad.appstate.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list LM_NET <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Subject: Intellectual Freedom I must congratulate Mr. Lachowsky-and those who have been "in his camp" for courage, and an ability to really think about what is at stake. I am not sure that full censorship is the right path, either. Yet, it bothers me that we Americans will fight so vigorously for the right to (choose) to view pornography (intellectual freedom?!), and yet abandon our religious freedoms. In fact, we fight to limit religious freedoms-we censor these all the time. How many postings have I read this month requesting "non-religious Christmas stories"? Talk about a contradiction in terms! How many communities won't permit nativity scenes? As if a nativity scene threatens our religious or intellectual freedom! But, we sure are going to go to our Congress and demand full access to smut! With the majority of you on this listserv, I would agree that the internet provides 98% "good" or even excellent resources ff ff f