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Okay, but 1st graders don't know the difference between productive noise and playing for all it's worth. I feel that we first teach them how to be quiet so others can read, then by the time they get to 6th grade and really know what the library is for, then we can stop teaching politeness first, and let them have a little more freedom. I'm not a mean person, but I do think we can let things get out of hand if children don't learn that other people have as much right to a calm environment as they have to speak to their friends. In my school, we don't punish or belittle kids who talk loudly, but we don't reward them either. If classes show a great deal of respect for other's rights, they get "compliments" worth 5 minutes extra recess, etc. Mary Lynne Jarvis, Librarian Ozark South Elementary School, grades 1-6 Ozark, Missouri about 30 miles north of now-famous Branson, Missouri. mjarvis@ozarks.sgcl.lib.mo.us On Mon, 20 Feb 1995, Ken Haycock wrote: > When I fist became a library media specialist [teacher-librarian] in 1969 > Wilson Library Bulletin published a poster "NO SILENCE!" that many of us > [in those "heady" days] put up [for a while at least!]. Interesting that > 25 years later we have the same debate... I'm with you -- productive > noise that doesn't unnecessarily disturb others... > > > Ken Haycock > School of Library, Archival and Information Studies > The University of British Columbia > 831-1956 Main Mall, Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z1 > Voice: 604-822-4991 Fax: 604-822-6006 > Internet: haycock@unixg.ubc.ca > > ************************************************** > Preparing Professionals to Exercise Leadership in > Planning, Implementing and Promoting the > Preservation, Organization and Effective Use of > Society's Recorded Information and Ideas > ************************************************** >