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Well I was right to be worried about the way that E-Mail message was looking in the Elm editor. Most of it got overwritten and so what got posted doesn't make much sense. Maybe it didn't need to be said anyway. So back to the main point. Change is hard and any creative and useful ideas for getting faculty members to accept and benefit from it would, I would think, always be valuable as a topic on LM_net. On the other hand we need to be careful about dismissing the techniques of the past as old-fashioned. A good teacher will use many strategies, old and new, to reach the students. -- Paula Neale || Ingels Elementary School Library Media Specialist || 11600 Food Lane hickman3@TV19.KCPT.ORG || Kansas City, MO 64134 (816) 761-4343