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> for school, pleasure and other purposes. It's just a different kind of > learning. Right, I agree. That's why it is *so* important that students become well founded in information retrieval and *finding* what they like to read. If they read only certain parts, I don't see how they can find what they like to read. Also, we in the public school are held accountable for our students' reading skills and schemata. Consequently, school librarians have in their job descriptions to teach students certain skills and to provide enrichment for the school curriculum (as you said). Teachers are frantic trying to get students to read *whole* books (that's why Accelerated Reader is being installed in so many schools), so I try to support their efforts as much as possible. No, we have a great deal of reading material and none of it is restricted, but the purpose of teachers' bringing their students to the middle school library was so that students would have a book that they would *read*, not just carry around. Both high school and middle school libraries are literally swamped with users, which is wonderful. I am supposing by that that they aren't feeling too restricted! :-) I have an idea that those who want to read and love libraries as we do *do* come to the public libraries, and I am grateful for that. I just wish those *others*, the ones who DON'T read would be interested enough to do the same! Also, I just had that lightbulb go on -- you know the one that signals a new idea? I had a former public librarian tell me during this discussion that because of the lines that are often at the reference desks of public libraries, that many times the material is located *for* the patron. I understand and applaud that, because many times users have only a few minutes to find what they need. I'm wondering if that is why, as I begin my "Socratic" questioning (to get the student to arrive at the correct sources of information for him/herself) he/she interrupts and says, I'll just wait and go to the public library! (And *thinking* is what we are trying to get these students to do, not just learn subject matter.) These are the ones who come to me first before they ever look at a card catalog or reference book or other data bases. The *search* is a PART of the assignment -- not just having someone else find it for them. Of course, having the catalog on computers has helped a good deal. Students *like* to search with computers. I have teachers come to me for input before they ever make an assignment. Many times they say, "Now I want them to have to *really* search for these answers; I don't want them to just look in the standard reference books." Well ... if I or the public librarian finds the information FOR the student, we are defeating part of that teacher's purpose -- to infuse higher order thinking into her project. In the school library, we HELP and we DIRECT the search with suggestions and assistance, but we try not to do it for them (but sometimes we *do* wind up doing more than the teacher prefers). Thanks for the feedback! (Sorry about the length.) Betty bhamilt@tenet.edu