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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 11:02:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Mary Kendall <mkendall@umd5.umd.edu> Hi Linda...We barcode, catalog and interfile "classic" paperbacks in "new" condition; others are placed on paperback racks uncataloged and checked out as "temporary" items. Cheers! Mary Kendall Calvert High Media Center mkendall@umd5.umd.edu 600 Dares Beach Road (410) 535-7347 Prince Frederick, MD 20678 ++++++ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 11:13:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Shirley Traylor <straylor@libby.rbls.lib.il.us> Presently I am still using the old card catalog/shelf list system. I received a grant to put our collection on a CD with the other libraries in our area. -- So some of the following may change in the future. But as of right now ........ I do both-- paperbacks that I consider just "ephermal" reading, something that I don't care if I replace that "exact" book or just another in the genre -- I don't catalog. Anything that is a Best Book for Young Adults, or any other award winner, anything of real substance that I think I can "push" and encourage students to read, or something that I might consider purchasing later in a PermaBound format -- I catalog. Oh yes, something by a "favorite author" may just have a shelf list card and nothing in the card catalog so I can place it on the regular shelves along with the rest. --- I am taking for granted that you are talking about fiction here. Unfortunately -- more and more of my fiction shelves are being filled with paperbacks. My book budget has stayed the same for the last 6 years while everything else has gone up. As I said next year I have to do some re-thinking. But as it stands right now I am still considering cataloging some but not all paperbacks. Those not cataloged will be kept seperate -- and I am leaning towards arranging them by genre and colored stickers on the spine. _____________________________________________________________________ "Teachers with class.....surf" Shirley Traylor Phone# (309) 523-3181 Librarian FAX # (309) 523-3550 (Superintendent Off) Riverdale High School Port Byron, IL 61275 E-mail: straylor@libby.rbls.lib.il.us ++++++ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 11:20:24 -0400 From: LaBookWorm@aol.com Hi. I inherited a collection much like the one you described last year -- a split collection with the paperbacks uncataloged. I combined the two into one collection of paperbacks and hardbacks, and am I ever glad I did. Now every book has a catalog record and a permanent location, both of which help me immensely. The kids seem to really like having a choice that's based on the size of the type as much as on the format. (I've noticed that size of type is very important to my middle schoolers.) They just like having the opportunity to make a choice for themselves be so obvious, too. It's nice when students are choosing books, too, to have books that are less stressful to read have the same shelf value as other books. No one feels like a second-class citizen anymore because they could only handle they kind of book that was on the paperback rack. And we got rid of the rack which has helped so much with taking card of the books. I think I only lost six or so this year because of cover damage. Good luck with your project. LaBookWorm@aol.com ++++++ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 10:39:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Glennda Pat Miller <gpmiller@tenet.edu> Linda-- We have over 2000 paperbacks, including picture paperbacks for primaries. We typed a shelflist card for each book, and keep it in a separate drawer where students can use it. We find that most students use the drawer when they know the title. We keep the picture paperbacks in baskets by the author's last name. In the B basket are all the Berenstain Bears, for example. Each book has a small sticker in the top left corner of the front cover so they can be filed facing front in the baskets for students to flip through. Chapter books are on spinners, with the author's letters clearly marked on the spines and on each shelf of the spinner. That way, students can search by author without our having to make cards. We have a high circulation for paperbacks. We cover the chapter books with contact paper, and they last for years. When we lose them to damage or loss, it is much easier to pull a single card, then to sort through our 50 catalog drawers! Sincerely, Pat Miller Walker Station Elementary LMC 6200 Homeward Way Sugar Land, TX 77479 ++++++ Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 10:23:25 -0600 (MDT) From: JENSENJK@UWYO.EDU I separate hardcover and paperback fiction at Laramie Senior High School LibraryAll fiction is completely cataloged. Paperback books that are classics are given a Kapco hardcover and then shelved with the regular Hardcover fiction. Paperbacks have a slight different call #, e.g. F STE (PB) I only use the 1st 3 letters of the author's last name in the call #. In order for paperbacks to sit nicely on the regular shelves the covers must be reinforced. Students browse both the paperback racks and the regular fiction shelves. Oversize paperbacks that do not fit well in the racks are also given reinforced covers and shelved along with the regular hardcover fiction. Of course, the call #s are slightly different, but still fairly standard. The previous librarian used the call #PB ST (oops) Pb STE for Danielle Steel's books. Having the F as the first part of the call # seems to be more consistent with other library call #s. I don't want tocreate lots of different call#s and categories. Students should be able towalk into any library and quickly understand the standard #s and shelving systems. ++++++ Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 09:47:20 -0700 (MST) From: marthap@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU I have lived with both types. I have moved paperbacks into one collection. One collection I lived with separate because we were so short of shelving. I much prefer the integrated collection. Are you automated? Cataloging is easier then. You can keep a PB on you call number, it is a little confusing but the students have overcome it. I keep the PB for inventory purposes ( need to turn in separate count for PB) also it keeps the circulation count separate. I much prefer the integrated account. I never can find books on paperback racks. We now spend 4-5 dollars a paperback, and so it is worth locating. I dislike our public library as a patron in that in keeps them on racks, and doesn't catalog them. I think paperbacks continue there preferential use by middle school students, and a few more of the hardbacks go out. ++++++ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:33:39 -0400 From: Susan Burstein <sburstei@csunet.ctstateu.edu> Linda, we keep our paperbacks on separate paperback racks. We use large letters on the spine and file them by first letter of author's name. The only problem here is that the regular size ones and the taller ones do not go together well, so we have four a-z racks, two for each size. We DO catalog them, and also give them categories and subjects since nowadays I buy so many novels in paperback format only. I would really prefer to interfile them, because I think the hard cover fiction would get better circulation this way, but I have found that paperbacks intermingled with hard covers tend to slide to the back of the shelf and get lost. They really do better on those spinning paperback racks. Susan -- Susan Burstein Portland Middle School, Portland, CT sburstei@csunet.ctstateu.edu sburnste@connix.com ++++++ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 16:49:07 -0500 From: ses@bluemarble.net (Ellen Dibble) Dear Linda, Our middle school (where I subbed before I started at the elementary) has separate collections. The paperbacks are not fully cataloged or intershelved with the hardbacks, mostly due to their temporary nature...even covered with plastic! They are given barcodes and temporary entries in the circ database and put on circular racks for kid browsing and circulation. Occasionally it is a problem when a book can't be "found" right away because it is only in paperback, but most of the titles that teachers need for curriculum are also in hardback, and the paperbacks are quick picks for multiple copies of popular titles and series books etc. for reluctant readers. It seems to work very well for them :) Ellen ++++++ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 17:52:04 -0400 (EDT) From: crae@prolog.net (Cathy Rae) Hi Linda! I inherited the same situation. I ended up interfiling, and yes, cataloging them. Here are some of the pros and cons I encounterd: Separate -- The kids have to look in two places. The paperbacks never seemed to stay in order due to kids rummaging. Because of size, they "slid around" on the shelf, got messed up easily, etc. Interfiled -- Can see all the author's books together. If a second copy is in paperback, the kids will find it right away. Sometimes get lost between larger books, especially in non-fiction. Cataloging is a real plus to knowing what exactly is in the collection. Most people don't care if they have to take it in paperback, some prefer it. I'm sure there are things I have missed. In general, I've been very happy with having them interfiled. We originally marked them PB above the call letters/numbers, and entered it into the circ system. We found out at inventory time that the PB were all at the end of our list, not interfiled! We went back and changed the PB to the end of the call letters/numbers. I have to remember to tell everyone this at the start of the year! Good Luck! Cathy Rae ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cathy Rae Library Media Specialist Harry S Truman Elementary School 1400 Gaskill Ave. Allentown, PA 18103 crae@prolog.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ++++++ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 17:57:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Linda Bertland <bertland@voicenet.com> Hi, I have worked in a middle school library which had the paperbacks interfiled with the hardcovers and in my current library I have the paperbacks separated. In both cases the paperbacks were in the catalog. When the paperbacks are interfiled they are easier for the students to find, but the paperbacks circulated a lot more than the hardcovers - showing that the paperback format is a lot more popular with middle school students. We had a lot of duplicates of titles in both paperback and hardcover, and the students really preferred the paperback. (I have a paper on this published in School Library Media Quarterly, Winter, 1991) In my current library, because of my low budget and because the students prefer paperbacks, I have almost stopped buying hardcover fiction. The paperbacks are becomming the main fiction collection. I have them arranged by author and cataloged. I have separated out the more popular mystery books and put them in a section of their own because I got tired of telling the students where the mysteries were. I think that the decision would be based on what the composition of your fiction collection is. If you have a lot of hardcover books in addition to the paperbacks, I would interfile them. This will draw your students attention to both categories. Sometimes, I think that they don't like hardcovers because they are "fat", and will not look at hardcover books if "skinny" paperbacks are available. Linda Bertland Librarian Stetson Middle School Philadelphia, PA bertland@voicenet.com ++++++ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 18:22:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Frankie Mauney Dilling <fdilling@tenet.edu> Paperbacks might get lost in the back of the shelves. They are not the same size and tend to creat problems if you intershelve them with the hardbacks. Can you catalog them with the call number PB ___ instead of FIC ____? Then the students would know to look in the paperback section. This has worked for us. Although we do not try to keep the paperback rack in any kind of alphabetical order. ************************************************* * Learning is most often, * Frankie Dilling * figuring out how to use what you already know * fdilling@tenet.edu *in order to go beyond what you currently think.* * - Jerome Bruner - * ************************************************* ++++++ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 21:26:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Janet Rawdon <rawdon@meol.mass.edu> Linda, I have paperbacks put separately uncatalogued. First of all they are either duplicate copies of popular books, bookds I wouldn't want to spend hardcover money on, or just random books I thought kids would like at the time, eg about a specific but transitory interest. I do not want to catalog them since they do not last as long as hardcover books and are not expensive enough to waste my time processing. They are basically throwaways, so to speak. I have a fair collection of paperbacks but they quite literally come and go and when they go they are just tossed out, often not replaced. Janet Rawdon rawdon@meol.mass.edu ++++++ Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 21:34:11 -0400 (EDT) From: KARI INGLIS <kbw_inglis@K12.MEC.OHIO.GOV> I assume you are not automated, but if you are, you can easily create a separate category of paperbacks and enter just basics - like author and title. We have done that with paperbacks that have been donated. We love having them, but they are generally not in condition to warrant a full careful cataloging/. If you are not automated, you can either give them the full card treatment and intershelve them or create a special call number (e.g. PB [AUTHOR] and shelve them in their own area. (Drug store racks are nice for this.) We do have lots of paperbacks that we give the full treatment to - especially trade paperbacks which I really like. I guess the point is, if they are worth having, it is worth having some kind of a record that lets people know you have them, but the level of cataloging can be set by you. Do what is practical. Kari Inglis kbw_inglis@k12.mec.ohio.gov Bishop Watterson High School 99 E. Cooke Rd. Columbus, OH 43214 614-268-8671 Fax: 614-268-0551 ++++++ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:15:02 -0700 (PDT) From: jscally@deltanet.com (Jeanne Scally) Linda, mine are separate, but I have thought of interfiling them also. Since there are so many duplicates in both bindings it seems sensible to have them together. I have also thought that my hardbacks would circulate more if the paperbacks were intermingled. I am definitely interested in a HIT. Oh, and we do have our paperbacks in our new automation system; they were not in the paper card catalog before I came; I added title and author cards, but not subject cards. We have full cataloging in our Follett system. Jeanne Scally Cerro Villa MIddle School Villa Park, CA ++++++ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:59:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "S};iu.4Pn8%" <spirkle@tenet.edu> Ihave separated my paperbacks from my hardback books because the tiny books kept falling through the shelves and getting lost among the bigger books. I add PB in front or on top of all the regular call numbers to let my students know where they are located. I also put any prebpund paperbacks in this cataegory. We are using the Accelerated Reading Program in our 6-8th grade reading classes and the teachers request more paperbacks than hardbacks for this program. Even books that are classics and come in hardback, we also buy in the preabound paperback format for this program. I bought special slanted shelves for these books so that they don't fall through. I have about 3,000 paperbacks and 9,000 hardbacks in my library which serves about 600 students. We have fixed scheduling for 6th grade and flexible for everyone else. With 40-50 drop-ins every period, it is easier for the students to find books for the reading program without very much help. Hope that this helps. Shirley Pirkle Librarian Gonzales Junior High School Gonzales, Texas 78629 spirkle@tenet.edu ++++++ To: lwolfgram@BENTON.K12.IA.US From: "Donna Peterson" <Donna.M.Peterson-2@tc.umn.edu> Hi, Linda Paperbacks can be a pain in the neck. In our K-5 library we shelve the non-fiction paperbacks (there are some titles that we wanted that did not come hardbound) with the regular non-fiction. The fiction paperbacks are shelved separately, mainly because - for the most part they are copies of existing hard bound editions. To help the budget, we purchase second and third copies of popular books in paperback editions. When I came to the library, none of the paperbacks were catalogued, and it drove me crazy, because I really didnot know what we had. For the paperback copies of hardbound books, we typed a shelf list card, then ordered a small stamp that said "+ paper" and stamped the upper right hand corner of the catalog cards that also had paperback copies. We were automated two years ago, and so the problem is solved. The hard bound and paperback titles are both identified. Hope this helps, or gives you some other ideas. Good luck, Donna ++++++ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:04 EDT From: sdtayl@dmci.net (Stanley D. Taylor) Linda, I have my collections seperate and keep a shelf list and a title and author file for the students. The paperbacks tend to wear out so fact that I thought putting them in with hte hardcover would increase the wear and tear. These are on round racks and even though we try to keep them in order sometimes it is a matter of searching for a title. Hope this helps. Helen:=). Helen Taylor Vandercook Lake Schools McDevitt Elementary Townsend Elementary 1005 Floyd Jackson, MI 49203 ++++++ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 15:34:53 -0700 From: pherr@int1.mhrcc.org I keep my fiction separate. Sometimes the kids just want a PB--they do tend to be newer. The nonfiction is shelved, or they're "lost." Also, I consider 99% of them consumable, don't bother with cataloging. When we automate, I'll do just the basics. Pauline Herr, LMS pherr@int1.mhrcc.org Arlington Elementary School Phone: (914) 486-4960 Raymond Avenue Poughkeepsie, NY 12603 District Web Pages: http://www.s390.ibm.com/arlington "He who opens a school door, closes a prison." Victor Hugo ++++++ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 16:03:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "L. Phillips" <lphillip@ciao.trail.bc.ca> On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Wolfgram, Linda wrote: > > What are the pros and cons of having paperback fiction separate from > hardcover fiction? I have inherited a collection where the two are > separate, and the paperbacks do not appear to be in the card catalog. I'm > I was in the same spot when I took over my K to 7 library. The picture books were shelved separately, hardcover fiction for intermediate and paperback; as most of the recent purchases in fiction had been paperback, the kids never went to the hardcover fiction, so I intershelved them and continue to do so. I also deliberately buy hardcover best selling fiction (e.g. The Giver) so that they dont think that pb=good stuff and hc=boring, old stuff. We always catalogued the pb fiction and continue to do so, as those books will last from 3 to 5 years. I think that books should be classified by type and not by binding. I also do that with non-fiction and with softcover paperbacks although I dont like buying picture books in paperback as they are so hard to shelve. The kids *do* check out more of the hc oldies but goodies when they have to confront them while looking for the latest RL Steine or whatever. Hope this helps, Lynne Lynne Phillips, Teacher-Librarian, Cook Ave Elementary School Rossland, British Columbia, Canada lphillip@ciao.trail.bc.ca ++++++ Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 19:53:28 -0400 From: Maryann Hensarling <mahen@vistech.net> Linda...Do not waste your time cataloging Paperbacks beyond Author, title..They will be gone before you know, if they are popular. I am one of those crazy people that mix some with hardback in hopes that students will find the hardbacks too. Now I am buying mostly paperback (hardback paperback) for my fiction collection. Fiction books are too expensive to just sit on the shelf. A big part of my budget goes for non-fiction/reference. I am now having to purchase Computer stuff out of the same budget... The important thing is to get the Kids to read!! MaryAnn Cobb Middle School, Tallahassee, Florida ++++++ Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 23:11:32 -0400 (EDT) From: kfd_yuhas@K12.MEC.OHIO.GOV Linda, Our paperback fiction is separate from the hardback fiction. The cataloging record contains the notation that a book is pbk so that we know where to look. Works well for us. Eileen Yuhas DeSales H.S. Cols.,OH kfd_yuhas@k12.mec. ohio.gov ++++++ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 96 23:37:00 -0400 From: Suzanne Weinheimer <suzanne@whatexit.com> I am in a 2-building K-4 school. In the K-1 building, paperback picture books are separated from H/C, and are filed at the end of the top shelf of the section. That is, if , in a three shelf bookcase, A is on the top shelf, B is in the middle and C on the bottom, then the A-B-C books are placed at the end of the top shelf (of A). In the grades 2-4 building, paperbacks are interfiled, unless they are new. I have a display of new paperbacks, as well as a display of American Girls collection, which includes both PB and HC. ******************************************** Suzanne Weinheimer, Library Media Specialist South Mountain School/Annex (K-4) South Orange, NJ 07079 school email: SMtnSchLib@aol.com personal email: suzanne@whatexit.com school web page: http://www.shu.edu/~murrayna ******************************************** Opinions expressed are my own... ++++++ From: "Evie Funk" <funkx005@gold.tc.umn.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 96 05:22:52 -0500 Dear Linda, When I first came to my middle school media center three years ago, the paperbacks were separate and uncataloged. I cataloged all the paperbacks and interfiled them with the hardcovers. It's working out beautifully. I can't imagine having paperbacks in a separate location now! It makes more sense to the kids, too. Evie Funk Hopkins West Junior High Minnetonka, Minnesota ++++++ Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 22:23:15 -0700 From: al8433kh <Kay.Honaker@m.k12.ut.us> > What are the pros and cons of having paperback fiction separate from > hardcover fiction? I have inherited a collection where the two are > separate, and the paperbacks do not appear to be in the card catalog. I'm > thinking about interfiling the paperbacks with the hardcovers I worked in a junior high (7-9) media center that had them separate. They were cataloged by accession number and genre. The kids came in for a quick read and went to the mystery section, or the romance section, or whatever. It worked pretty well, but the hardback fiction were being ignored, and the paperback section was getting too big to handle. I finally went through (after much trepidation) and consolidated the two collections. Hardback circulation went up dramatically the first year. I had spine labels identifying genre, so students could still look that way if they wanted. I'm opening a new high school this year, and am keeping the integrated policy. One note--my paperbacks are all hard cover. -- Kay Honaker, Media Coordinator Timpanogos High School Orem, UT 84057 Kay.Honaker@m.k12.ut.us ++++++ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 09:43:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "S. Peckham" <speckham@creighton.edu> Hi Linda, I have always believed that students as well as staff search for books in different ways-sometimes they know the author and it is important to locate the fiction title on the shelf-other times we just browse and that is where paperbacks (I buy hardbound paperbacks) are terrrific on wire racks. I often buy several copies so they can be found both on the shelf and the racks. In middle school libraries I had racks for Science fiction, historical novels, animal stories, etc. in high school where history students are required to read historical novels I often color code (with tape) American Hsitorical novels, World historical, etc. i also inherited a library of bunches of donated paperbacks-most of them were dingy, yellowed and not ones students would choose to read. I discarded almost everything and ordered good YA Hardbound paperbacks and recreational reading has skyrocketed in our school as a result. These books are in the computer catalog and I get free records for them when they are ordered. Good luck Sarah %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Sarah Peckham. Marian High School 7400 Military Ave, Omaha, NE SPeckham@Marian.Creighton.edu 402-571-0619 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ---------------------------------------------------------- Linda Wolfgram wolfgraml@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us Middle/High School Media Specialist Benton Community Schools Van Horne, IA