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BTW: I don't use Webwacker or similar programs and only know of them through discussions on the lists. I guess two main questions come to mind. Is the use for instruction in a limited time frame? Or, is the use going to be ongoing for the whole year? If the use is limited, then Webwacker is a nice way to ensure that the lesson materials are available for each class and that the lesson will proceed smoothly. My personal opinion would be that this falls under Fair use. It would be courteous to let the Webmaster of the site know that you have chosen to use the site for a lesson. <grin> If the use will be continuous as a resource, then aren't the students being done a disservice by not experiencing the true uncertain nature of the Internet/Web?</grin>. If the site will be used as a permanent resource, then it seems Fair use does not apply and permission to webwack the site to your server or machine should be sought. The point of hit counts, log statistics, etc. is to show that the Website is being used. A list or count of the sites that have "wacked" the site (or portions of it) with permission would make a very nice addition to the statistics. Think of what that says to the decision makers: a site is so good that a library needs unimpeded access to the information on it. With a little extra effort, both sides can be accommodated. Dan Robinson Editiorial Specs Specialist and Web Team member H.W. Wilson Company Bronx, NY drobinson@info.hwwilson.com http://www.hwwilson.com > I certainly agree with the issues of hit rates and keeping free sites > available. What is the middle ground, if there is any, for those who > want to make sure that a site is available for the 7 periods of classes > taught during the day? What other alternatives are available for > reliable, consistent access during the school day? I'm sure we are not > alone in finding it very difficult for a teacher to be assured that a > wonderful site will be available for a stretch of class periods. > > Joanne Troutner > Director of Technology & Media > Tippecanoe School Corporation > Lafayette, IN 47905 > jtroutne@wvec.k12.in.us > "To boldly go where no educator has gone..." > >