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Here are more responses to my question about circulation software. from Beth Pounds: I really think that trying to gather parent wishes on book restrictions goes contrary to everything we have been taught as librarians and ties up our time doing things which are not our job, BUT if you still want to do this, there may be a way. I use Unison and I can put an "important note" in any student's folder. When this person's folder is opened to do circulation, the computer beeps and the important note comes to the forefront. Using the escape key clears it from the screen but retains it to be shown again the next time you go into the folder. You can also delete the message with a "F" key (can't remember the number). Hope this helps. from Jeanette B. Heath: Mandarin does not have this feature. from Rebecca Endlich: Alexandria Companion circulation system has such a capability that I know of. There may be others. from Joan Peterson: Your ideals are laudable, but probably impossible. I don't know of any software out there at present which does what you want and I am not sure that there should be. Allow the parents to exercise their responsibility toward their children and supervise what their children read. In reality, I doubt if very may parents will complain about materials in an elementary library. In theory, you could make a data base of all the students and all the parents desires (presuming they communicate them to you), but it is just not practical. Parents should be parents and librarians should be librarians and not try to take over the parents' functions. If you provide good materials in your library, you should make them available to all students and let the parents decide about their own children. In short--don't sweat it! There are many more problems you will have to spend you time and energy on without taking on an impossible task (pleasing everyone). Good luck with you career. from Alice Yucht: philosophical issues aside, please consider one very real, and practical aspect of your desire for a "filtering" circulation software program that would provide access to parental preference indicators. It's not about intellectual freedom, it's about professional priorities. Not every library is fully automated, fully staffed, or even fully funded. Many elementary school libraries are basically one-person operations, which means that often the circ. procedures must be done by volunteers, including the kids themselves. Where will you find the time to input all the parental preferences, make sure that those "filters" not being circumvented by whoever is doing the actual checkouts, etc.? What I'm trying to tell you is that -- with the best of intentions -- you may be creating additional work for yourself that you won't have time to do, without shortchanging other, more basic professional responsibilities. If a parent doesn't want their kid to read something, that is the parent's responsibility to supervise and enforce. As librarians, we often JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME/STAFF to do it for them. Good luck. from Kate Stirk: Most automated systems offer you a space for comments about students/patrons. You could enter any parental concerns in that space. On Alexandria, the comments section pops up each time the child tries to check out. I haven't used it on Athena but I know the notes/comments section is there. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Very few parents will "demand" their child only have access to certain books. Most collections support the curriculum so there are few challenges. The challenges come from the assigned fiction works. from Phyllis Sigmond: Once again, I will put my two cents in, I think you are missing the boat!!! It is your selection policy, not a circulation system which will answer those needs. Your emphasis is selection and reader's guidance, not selection and parents' approval. While I was new (5 years ago), I struggled with how to create a Young Adult collection. How would I keep youngers students from checking these books out? I talked with Dianne Hopkins about intellectual freedom concerns. She didn't tell me what to do, but what to think about. With the best of intentions, was I planning to restrict the YA collection. I was planning to say, "Sorry, these books is open only for 7th and 8th grade students. When you are in 7th and 8th grade, you can read them too." That really wasn't my intent, but I didn't see another way. I also did have a formal challenge on a book that had been in the LMC since 1975 about witchcraft and charms. Because I had a school board approved policy which I had written while a student at UW-Madison, my "butt" was covered. My reconsideration committee functioned very professionally and the book was retained. It made me rethink about that YA situation again. I was worried that the YA would get me a challenge and it was an old book that I hadn't even selected or cared about that did it! Time to rethink. My statement about the LMC mission and responsibilities in the student/parent handbook does all that you are saying with the onus on the parent, not the LMC. We all need to educate our students and parents and teachers and administrators and guidance counselors about intellectual freedom, a parent's responsibility and reader's guidance. I have had another challenge since then about a YA book that had been banned in our school in 1982 which had been inadvertently reshelved during automation and a move to a new school and found by the same family which initially had the book successfully removed. The reconsideration committee, updated policy and updated mission statement and responsibilities worked again. I have had to talk to parents and defend our policies while telling them that they had the right to limit their student's choices. They have all declined. Acknowledging their opinions, rendering validity to their concerns is the most important action you can do to help them understand a student's right to read and family values. Make them your allies. I still send books reviews about Christian literature to the first mother posed my first challenge and I have had to reject 6 books she felt she could just give to the LMC. I have also circled books on the reviews that I would love to have in the LMC. I have spent a long time on this. I usually don't, but I sort of know where you are coming from. How do you do the best job finding the right book for a student? I have called parents telling them that I had a book I thought their student would be interested in (Staying Fat for Sarah Byrnes). She suggested I send it home and she would read it. She liked it and her daughter read it. I enjoyed the Wheetsie Bat books by Francesca Block, but will not select them for our LMC, so I placed one in a yellow envelope and send it home to her mom, asked her to read it first (I did know the mom well) to see if she approved (which she did). They both wanted to read all the rest of the books. Last summer when getting an ice cream cone, she told me she had purchased them and gave them to all her friends. Keep the joy in book selection (which you already have) and reader's guidance (which you are working on) and work in your new school to build the book budget. What you need is a great collection with lots of choices for lots of reading needs. By the way, I will still let a young student check out any book as long as I have practiced reading guidance (the student must have one book he/she can read) or tell the student to have his/her mom call or come with him/her to get "Goosebumps". I encourage our parents to check out books on their own cards which we make. from R. Jean Gustafson: You've probably already been informed that Folletts system does just that. you can put in a patron important message and it comes up when you put in the students name. You have to read the message and then remove it before you can check anything out to them. This way it reminds you before checking things out the child of any important parental requests. from Cathy Moore: I'm taking the Uof South Carolina MLIS degree program via distance ed through the U of Maine Augusta. This week our YA lit professor, Dr. Pat Feehan, invited Karen Jo Gounaud of Family Friendly Libraries to address our class. This was wonderful to hear the agenda of the FFL and Mrs. Gounaud's own opinions about censorship (which she doesn't want to do - just move the books like _Daddy's Roommate_ to the adult section). She talked about a program called LibrarySafe which sounded as if parents could make requests as to the type of books allowed or not allowed to their own children. I think the web URL is www.librarysafe.com Good luck. I graduate in May (it's been a long three years, with three years before that completing my bachelor's- and I'm getting closer to middle age !) ********************************************************************** Thanks once again to all of you who took the time (and the thought) to reply! It is much appreciated! :-) Marti Anderson mailto:marti@inwave.com substitute teacher: Janesville, WI School District student: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee