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(Note: Sorry this is being sent out in reverse order. I went over the line limit for Part One, and am now dividing that section into two parts. Thanks for your understanding and patience! :-) Marti) Hi! Wow, did this group ever come through for me! You not only answered the question I asked, but you opened up on important issues that widened my perspective. Most of you seemed to take my status as a student into account and were very kind and gentle, acting as the guides and shepherds I think school library media specialists are meant to be. Much that was written was very thought provoking and fascinating. Thank you for that! As a result of the responses, I now think I would be unlikely to use the software feature I asked about, but I am glad to know that such a feature does exist in case I ever run across a situation where this might be the only way I could keep a particular book on the shelves. I also am even more strongly aware of the need of a strong written collection development policy. This group is a very important part of my new career venture; I learn as much (if not more) from all of you as I do in my classes! A special thanks to Karen DeFrank, who explained the steps to cut and paste to post a hit. Here are the responses [uncensored ;-)] to my inquiry in the order I received them. You all have my deepest gratitude! from Sue Rasmussen: In the Circulation Plus program from Follett Software you can enter such a message so that it will come up each time a student checks out materials. Hope this helps. from Paul Kreamer: I agree wholeheartedly that parents not only have that right, they have an absolute responsibility to do so; *however*, it is not our job as LMS's to do it for them. And even though I am personally philosophically opposed to doing so, the logistics of delivering on a promise to filter kid's material for the parents are mind-boggeling, even with circulation software to simplify the procedure. Trust me, if you end up in a high school library like mine serving 1600+ students you will have plenty to keep you occupied without screening and censoring for the parent. Bear in mind that once you accept the responsibility to take on one more parental responsibility, what happens when you miss one censoring call and a kid brings home something his/her parents object to? In the US of Goldberg and Osborne, a lawsuit is what happens. The key to this lies in collection development tied to a mission statement and a clear justification for what is available on the shelves. It's so much easier than trying to gauge the diverse values of each and every set of parents whose children come through your doors. You'll sleep much better at night. from Jim Bruce: Evem though I support the idea of parents being involved in the reading habits of their children, this concept scares me somewhat. If you actually institute such a policy you will have the situation where one of the students in a class can take out a book, but the one next in the line that tries the same thing gets told to put it back. How would you feel if you were ordered to do so? It also means that you will have to go over all the books in your library and rate them according to some sort of scale. Perhaps a V-chip would have to be installed at the checkout desk as well. What will you then do about books that are rated in some sort of R category? How do you then defend the purchace of the item in the first place? You will create all sorts of interesting debate on just about whatever rating system you choose. If you want to tackle this matter seriously, I would provide parents with a list of the books checked out by their child. Such a method would at least not descriminate against a student at the moment the checkout is being performed. Then the responsibility would be placed squarely in the hands of parent and child. The automation system that we produce will not generate a list of books read by students, for fear such lists will be eventually held against individuals. You can imaging what someone would pay to find out what Madonna or Bill Clinton read in Jr. High school. I think the best all around option is to house only books that you can defend in terms of the overall positive affect on a young reader's life. We are there to educate, so we can't justify buying something that doesn't contribute to an education in some way. In that we do differ from the public library which bus more according to the interests of the patrons. from Leslie Effman: I don't know of any such circulation censoring software but why would you want it anyway. Family policies are the parents and kids' responsibilities and you can't be put in the position of policing what all your kids take out. Hopefully, your families will look at what the kids take out and will send anything back they're not happy with and have the child take out something that adheres to their family values. Good luck from Debby Walters: Alexandria's Companion automation software has a componet where you can enter notes about the student which come up whenever the student wants to check out materials. I know librarians who have put parental requests into that area. from Frances Knight: Yes, Athena gives you a chance to add notes that will show on the screen when the person starts to check out material. from Rhonda Bracey: Our library automation software has a way of doing this, and I have no doubt that others do so too. How we deal with this is by having a "patron comment" field into which such information may be entered. Our new product has both a public and private comment able to be attached to the patron - only those with the appropriate security access can view the private comment. The reason we have done this is that we were concerned that our previous product which only has facility for one type of comment, had problems in that whenever the patron's information was displayed on screen (on check out and check in, as well as their record), the public comment was also displayed. As students or parent volunteers could also assist at the circulation desk, having comments about what the child could/couldn't check out was not a good idea!! When we train users in our system we strongly advise that such comments NOT be entered - any comment about the patron should be inocuous and unlikely to cause offence or upset anybody. So when developing our latest automation product, we decided to include both the public (inocuous) and private comment areas, to enable Teacher-Librarians to do exactly as you have suggested. Our system also has the ability to attach to patrons particular statuses in addition to other borrowing categories to which they may belong. Any patron status can be linked to a parameter which makes anybody with that status unable to borrow (e.g. status of "Banned from borrowing" can have activated for it an alert whenever that patron tries to borrow). If you check with libraries using different automation software you should find they have similar functions. I hope this helps. from Teresa Fyanes: I use Folletts Unison program and it allows you to attach messages on a patron record. You can input either as a "note" which is hidden and needs to be accessed through using an F-Key, or as an "important message" the text of which is brought up on the screen as soon as you scan the patron barcode. Either of these would work for parental preference indicators. from Frederick Muller: I do not know of such software. Your request concerns me. I would never let such a situation develop. It is not up to us to control a student's reading. It is between a parent and their child. I know there is a concern about fiction books with the devil in it so I always point it out to students saying that some parents don't want their children reading such books. but it is between you and your parent. from Clete Schirra: In Follett's Unison, you can enter patron notes for individual patrons. This could be very time consuming in a large student population. Is your question refering to elementary, middle or high school students? ******************************************************************* :-) Marti Anderson mailto:marti@inwave.com