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Several people thought my problem with MAS might not be the program, but instead be my system or network. I am looking into this now. People said they ran it on Novell Optinet, Meridian Tower, and Novell Procom Tower. Several of these used the Full-Text Elite version which I don't have. There were at least 4-5 votes for MAS. California said that MAS was state approved and now there was a discount for them. Someone said Ebsco is willing to negotiate on price. HOWEVER 5 people voted against MAS. Seven people voted for InfoTrack Super Tom. They liked the ease and value. One person wished for a bigger database. I tried this program last year decided against it at the time (can't remember why) and may need to try it again since it got the most votes. Some people liked it because it is what the public library uses. Easy transition for kids. No one voted against it. No one voted for Wilson, but one person did vote against it. Electric Library did get one vote and none against. I would like to here more about this from anyone who uses it. I heard some negative things about it from a rep, but my Tech person thought it might be worth a try. I guess you can get a 30 day trial at www.k12.elibrary.com. UMI Proquest had three votes for, none against. Only comment was it was too expensive. Newsbank Newsfile (newspapers) had several good comments. We have it and like it, but it is expensive and getting more so. As for Newsbank Periodicals no one voted for it. There were four votes against. Comments were: not wide enough coverage of periodicals (i.e. information) kids use; too expensive for what you get, and not like the way it is set up. OK - that is the info I got from you all - NOW here are some more thoughts and questions as I continue to wrestle with the issue. I am trying Proquest out and like it OK, but it takes three to four disc spaces in our tower. I only have seven slots and don't know when I'm getting another tower (if ever) so that is a real issue Expensive too! I tried Proquest on line (Internet version) and was less than impressed. Way too expensive and does not serve my purposes. I am trying Newbank basic - 30 full text. Not sure I like how it is set up, don't think it covers enough magazines that I want or use, also expensive. In the process of talking to a lot of reps and my other librarians this issue surfaced - if I get full text how far back does it go? Seems to be '88 on the index disc. which you would need to keep in all the time. There are two years of full text on one cd, so after that you have to find another slot for another cd or you need to be putting cd's in and out all the time which is not convenient (considering where my tower is located). I am not truly networked, so each program has to be installed separately on each computer when you change discs. Real hassle. If you give up hard copies in order to save money to get full text what happens somewhere down the line if you need to go back to something else that is not full text (like a budget problem)? You can't fill in your missing hard copies? Does full text provide graphics like pictures and charts? What happens to paper and printer cartridge budget if we have people printing off everything? I see some real technology issues - like access (how many machines do you have available to put this program on). How about enough space for all those cd's as they mount up over the years. (Someone said they put a supermega hard drive in their computers and downloaded the cds onto them so don't need a tower). Hard copy questions too, in the light of continuing expense for magazine programs and cuts in our budgets. How do we fill in if necessary once we stop the magazine for a year or two? I think the answer will eventually be internet magazine databases, but that too will be very expensive and have problems with with technology and printing. So for now where am I? Believe it or not I may stay with MAS one more year and see what the next year brings. Will my budget be cut, will there be improvements in magazine database programs, will my district finish up some of the tech work so access and networking are less of an issue? I guess everything is in such flux right now that the "wait and see attitude" might not be too bad. I have a tech person coming tomorrow to see if we can straighten out my MAS problems. I understand that there is some "file" that accumulates and needs to be taken off, also that the Dos version if run on Windows does not use extended memory, also understand that the number of hits you allow can have some effect. We will see - maybe I will have to go back and reconsider again. Pam Dodson Comments are welcome . . . . . . . . . . ############################################################################## Pamela Dodson Librarian - Sammamish High School Bellevue Public Schools - Washington "Books can be dangerous. The best ones should be labeled 'This could change your life'." pjdodson@accessone.com Helen Exley dodsonp@belnet.bellevue.k12.wa.us shpdodso@oasis.bellevue.k12.wa.us ############################################################################## Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:14:47 -0800 From: Melissa Davis <mbdavis@flex.net> Subject: GEN: Synergistic Systems modules inquiry My campus is considering purchasing the Synergistic Systems (Pittsburg, KS) "Explorations in Technology" learning modules and workstations. Apparently it is a combination of hardware, software, videos and hands-on activities that covers 20 different technology curriculum areas. We would appreciate any feedback from those of you who have had experience with this company specifically or with similar products. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Melissa Davis Librarian Splendora Middle School Splendora I.S.D. 26175 FM 2090 Splendora, TX 77372 Internet: mbdavis@tenet.edu PHONE: (713)689-2853 mbdavis@flex.net FAX: (713)689-8702 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~