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Dear LM-NET, This is the last of the replies; I will be glad to update this hit if I receive more information. Thank you so much for taking the time to answer, I really appreciate it. We are about to remodel our high school library. We are scheduled to get a computer research lab with about 30 computers. What is the groups opinion on: a) Libraries with labs and no walls (30 computers) b) Libraries with labs and walls to separate the lab from the rest of the library. Cheryl, we've had a lab in our MC for two years. It shares one wall with my office. That wall is 1/2 glass. The other interior wall has shelving on the other side. 2 lab walls are exterior walls, one with an emergency exit. I would HIGHLY recommend separating the lab with walls. Our lab is not primarily used for research, but for a wide variety of things. Students are only permitted to use the lab when taken in by a classroom teacher. Because of heat problems, we frequently have to leave the door into the MC open, and find that even with the most well-behaved classes, teacher instruction is disruptive to students working in the MC. We close the door whenever possible. The glass wall enables me to see all the monitors and frequently I see a problem that a teacher may miss because their attention is drawn elsewhere. It also (alas!) allows teachers to more easily get my attention when they need help. A drawback we've found to the wall is the heat problem I mentioned earlier. The MC heating/cooling system was designed for a large, open area and isn't as efficient now that the wall is in place. (It was added before the lab was installed.) a) Libraries with labs and no walls (30 computers) We have this situation in a library w/o walls and classrooms w/o walls. It works well. The computers become part of the regular information flow. In an elementary school, most of the programs have sound, so it does get loud. I doubt that it would at a secondary school. First of all please post a hit when you get your answers. I am also interested, because we are looking at building a new library. My problem with computers in the library instead of in another room is I have some teachers that have no control over their kids. The kids are noisy and very disruptive, I fear for the computers and my materials. Also if computers are in the library, some teachers would just drop them off on their way to the workroom (I'm a one man show). Even with glass seperating the lab from the library, you still have kids sticking their noses up against the windows. MD/SR. High School We're are a junior high and started out life with partial (office cubicle) walls separating the MacLab of about 25 computers from the rest of the library. This was 1)very noisy, 2)even though walls were partial, it got very warm, 3)but it was fairly easy to supervise, although it meant a lot of travel to all corners of the library and back to supervise. Now, we have a temporary setting in (first) a normal classroom and now in the staff room, with 1/4 of our books, 15 computers. This is EASY to supervise, because it is so small, but not very effective. We are under renovation. When we return to the library, we will have a separate MacLab room, which is the "leg" of a "T" and will have doors and windows into the rest of the library. As I see it, it will be very difficult to supervise (I am the only staff person serving here), the windows, will, at least, tell me that someone has entered the room. (It has its own outside entry.) I will have to recruit parents to help whenever and wherever, unless they can find money to fund another person. Fortunately, here in Silicon Valley, a lot of parents feel comfortable around computers and in libraries. That's my opinion. In a month, I should be moved or moving back, then, we'll see. WALLS NO!I have a 1,500 sq. foot room with 17 computers in "pods" at the center of the room. The shelves of books are back against the 4 walls. This is great for watching student activity. When they sit at the computers I can see over them clear to the other side of the room. I understand that MANY people prefer a computer setup where all the screens can be seen...basically the computers are placed around the walls. In a computer lab situation, that is probably best. I prefer to see the STUDENTS and let NetNanny care for the screens. My shelving is 5 feet tall, so it MUST be against the walls. Please let me know what you find out. Our brand-new superintendent was in here and thought we might take 1/4 of the room for "long-distance learning" and just whip up a clear plexiglass divider. In my opinion this is the WORST option. We have a room that has been divided like this for 30 years...everyone complains about it. If one teacher is responisble, they can't HEAR or even get into the other area fast enough to be effective. If a teacher WANTS clear separation, (2 classes simultaneously) then the visual distractions are ANNOYING! YES! you need walls around each lab--full walls with windows. Walls will help cut down on the noise created by the computers and or students in the labs. If you have half windowed walls, you have easy visual access to monitor what is going on in each lab. I have a lab of 18 machines, which will be increased in size and number of machines over the summer. It is walled off from the library, however half of the wall are windows. This lab is used at times as a classroom, as I assume yours would also be. Again, think of the noise level. We have three other computer labs in the building that are used for classroom instruction. The primary purpose of my lab is to allow students computer access during their free time so they can produce reports, do research and work on projects--however, if a teacher wants to instruct a class on a particular program, they can reserve the room for that purpose. You also need a person in each lab at all times. This person needs to be able to trouble shoot and help kids with programs and simple things like load the printers. Just having a person there will help cut down on nonsense and vandalism. I understand that after my lab becomes a full sized lab, I will have a teacher assistant who will man the lab. I feel this is a necessity and have been requesting such a person since the lab was placed in the library several years ago. We supervise the best we can, but.... Hope this helps. I cannot stress enough, if you have a choice between walls (with windows) or no walls, take the walls. Don't think you would be sorry. Thank you again. Cheryl Townsley Librarian L. D. 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