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Thanks Everyone! I have received 45 replies so far, on both sides of the issue. Many have mentioned points of view that I hadn't considered. Since I had so many reply that they were waiting for the HIT, I am posting it as soon as possible and will add updates if anymore responses come. Since there were so many reponses, I have divided them into 4 parts and hope that won't overwhelm anyone. Thanks again! Sherida C. Steffen, Librarian Rose Warren Elementary School Las Vegas, Nevada Sherida_C._Steffen@aspen.interact.K12.nv.us ************************************************ This also drives me mad! I had a conversation with the elementary principal about teacher restrictions at the end of the year, asking to make it an agenda item at a staff meeting. I am purchasing more and more age appropriate nonfiction which these students never get to check out when they can only check out picture books or chapter books, etc. My 1st and 2nd grade teachers are the worst offenders. I have circumvented these teachers' restrictions by placing books I discuss or use in lessons on a display table in the middle of the library for student check out. The students are very grateful and nearly every book gets checked out. I think these types of restrictions are intended to make sure a child checks out something that is age appropriate, but they do not take into account the diversity of student ability. To restrict a gifted 1st grader to vocabulary limited picture books (one of my 1st grade teacher's methods) will bore that child into illiteracy! Also, why can't an academically challenged 5th grader read several books to total 100 pages rather than one book of 100 pages which to him or her may seem an impossible task? There are many picture books on important topics (Pink and Say by Patricia Polacco on the Civil War comes to mind) which will extend that child's abilities more than a mountain of text. ************************************************ The only time I recall a restriction of selection by my teachers was in two cases: 1. Required that students select something beyond picture books (these were third graders who still loved their old favorites and she wanted them to grow with some of the more grade appropriate chapter books.) 2. Special topic or assignment given by the teacher and she/he requested that I not allow the students to select anything except books on their topic for this one circulation period. Problem with this assignment...she gave me no notice and as a result many of the "selected topic" books she wanted for her students were already checked out by other students in other classes. I could have pulled them all and made them available to select from had she/he given me enough notice to "reserve" these. Needless to say, I was unable to assist her students in meeting this requirement. Other than these two times, I've not had a big problem with any restrictions. Sometimes a student will come in and ask for a good book to read and on occasion the suggestion I make is met with a "my mom doesn't allow me to read books about ....." so I just simply try something else...interview with further questions to figure out and meet the student's need. ****************************************** I have had this only when an assignment is goven for a book report in the intermediate grades so they will not get Dr. Seuss and try to use it to avoid an assignment. The second grade teachers at some point in the year will instruct the children to get chapter books and one even comes in to assist the children by seeing if they select books that they are capable of reading. They take two books so the second book has no restriction. If they go ever their head on the second we try to advise but if that fails we let them have it. We suggest someone read to them. Hope this is what you wanted to know. ******************************************** I have a first grade teacher who insists her children must pick books they can read. I get around it by letting the chidren have 2 books - one for the teacher's request, and one of their own choosing. ******************************************** When I was a parent volunteer in my child's elementary school (the librarian position had been eliminated-no aides either...but that's another thread) the 1st grade teachers would not let their students check out non-fiction books. We were quite dismayed and brought this to the attention of the library steering committee and the principal but we were "just parents" and what did we know? This policy proceeded for several years until a professional lib. med. spec. was hired. ********************************************** I agree with you. I can understand a teacher giving parameters for a book for a specific assignment but your message implies that the restriction was for ANY borrowing? Students should be able to borrow freely for recreational reading or to follow their own interests. *********************************************** The one thing I did was allow students to have more than one book checked out at a time. So, if a teacher required a certain book for classroom assignments, etc, the students still were able to select books that appealed to them. I did have a time convincing primary teachers to allow students to check out books they couldn't "read" But, it was my library and I did what I wanted. They got over it after a few years. ********************************************* AS a high school librarian it galls me sometimes when teachers send kids in to the library to check out a book with restrictions. I may find them a book we both think they'll like but it's short of the required number of pages or the teacher deems it "too easy" or whatever. As the "expert" I would like to be consulted first and I have asked teachers to let me know about their restrictions, but they seem to have no idea that I go a lot of trouble to pick out a good book for a student. To have that student return to the library 15 minutes later and say they can't check out the book is insulting. *********************************************** I try to honor the teacher's wishes, then "offset" it by allowing students to also take out any book or two of THEIR choosing even if this means exceeding the usual limits. Don't know that I've ever made a big deal out of it, just sort of matter-of-factly allow extra check-out for students in those cases - everyone seems satisfied, teachers AND kids. ************************************************* I have one teacher who does not let them get drawing or joke books during her time. Since it is a middle school the kids can come in on passes and before and after school to get these books. I have no problem with this since it is HER class time. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST * NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=