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Dear Esteemed Group Members, Within 24 hours of posting my request, many of you came through with tremendous feedback on your preferences. The librarian who requested this information was very impressed. Thank you to all of you who responded. As promised, here is the hit with names deleted. Cynthia I recommend them without reservation. I have ordered from them for 15 years. Their product withstands heavy use. Their catalog MARC records are excellent and service is great. I opened a new library 4 years ago. Of the 6000+ books received from BTSB, only about 3 had any problem. None were bound poorly. My only complaint is that I can't get ALL books through them. I have never used Bound-to-Stay-Bound but I do use Perma-Bound as often as I can as their books are very attractive and they are guaranteed *forever* --- literally :) Something to consider... I think that BTSB books are superior to books from other vendors. For the money, they can't be beat! They are the best - they beat Follett and Econo Clad - I order all my pictur= e books and as many of the rest that I can too - they are a wonderful binding, I've never been disappoited - they print the cover picture right on the front hard cover, so you do lose a little of the vibrant color, but they als= o do ship you the paper covers to do with what you want -- I purchase books from Bound to Stay Bound all of the time. their binding cannot be beat. The only negative is that some books cannot be bound so they do not offer them. they guarantee them and I have only sent one back. We are an elementary school so our books have to be tough. Most popular ones circulate 40 times in a year. You do have to send about 25% more titles than needed in a do not exceed order. Right now I have 4 orders outstanding for a total of $4,000. the books are attractive in appearance also. If a book cover is available they will send one. I do not think you will be sorry ordering from them. BTSB is very good. Their books are top quality. The only fault I have foun= d with them is that their selection isn't as good as PermaBound. BTSB is a very fine product. Unlike Permabound or Econoclad or others, most of their books are NOT originally paperbacks with that typical yucky paperback feel of the pages. The only thing distressing is that if you want to use the original book jackets, they are slightly too large after the rebinding process, so it is a challenge to make them fit. Other than that the books are excellent quality, the service is prompt, and any problems are handled efficiently and with the philosophy that the customer is always right (even when we're not!). We use Bound To Stay Bound Books for our most heavily used titles--Dr. Seuss, Beverly Cleary, Clifford, I Spy, etc. BSB books are nearly indestructible (even when in constant circulation to very active kindergarteners and first graders!) and the cost is very competitive with library binding and even trade binding. However, BSB does not carry all in-print titles, although I believe they will make arrangements to re-bind other books. They do offer full processing as well as MARC records and data disks and barcodes. I work in a school in a very "rough" neighborhood where kids have never taken care of anything. I only order from BTSB because their books are the only ones that will hold up for several years. I have used Bound to Stay Bound for several years. I have been very pleased with the quality and durability of their books. Service has been fast and the fill rate on orders excellent. Often books available originally in paperback are priced well below the cost of hardcovers available from other jobbers, ie. The American Girl and Let's Read and =46ind Out series. They are absolutely the best, and indestructible. Great customer service department. I order exclusively from BTSB! Think you will be pleased. Bound to Stay Bound Books are great! I regularly get 100 circulations from those really popular Ames drawing books, Beverly Cleary, etc. In an elementary library they are a very good decision. The company is also good to work with. Bound to Stay Bound is our primary vendor. Their books last much longer than any other prebound books we have used. I have used BTST for some time. I love their bindings. They are durable, attractive, and I think priced reasonable. I use them to order mostly fiction. It seems like their offerings in non-fiction are not as varied as other companies. I send them a "Do Not Exceed" order, and can deplete my budget at the end of the year without losing any significant money. I use them often and have never had a problem. I especially like them for heavily-used titles. I don't think I've ever had one fall apart. I have been using them since 1969 in three different schools. I have never had a book fall apart that they have sent me. I don't have any "hard" statistics about Bound-to-Stay-Bound books but havin= g worked in public libraries and media centers for the last 20 years, I know from experiene that the book covers and binding will outlast the wear and te= ar on the pages inside. They are very durable bindings and last forever. If y= ou want books that will last for a very long time, choose BTSB. BTSB is quite reliable. Their bindings are the sturdiest I've seen. You still get book jackets, which can be used on bulletin boards. I especially recommend buying from them if your order is heavy on "classics"--books you know will circulate. Some people think it's good to buy in paperback if you're not sure books will get used. Permabound (reinforced paperbacks) is a branch of their company, I think. I find I get better results buying from a school library-oriented company like BTSB (or Follett) than Baker & Taylor or Brodart. I have been ordering from BTSB for almost 10 years. I started using them upon the recommendation of a parent at my first school who was/is a public librarian and they had good results also. They have been prompt with orders, accurate in filling them, and the quality is great. Basically, the only reason I would buy a hardcover book from anyone else would be if a specific title were requested by a teacher and BTSB didn=92t happen to carry it. They are usually only a little more expensive, and occasionally cheaper, than the Perma-Bound type books, but these are rebound hardcover books instead of paperbacks, so the quality of the paper is MUCH better. The bindings are also generally sturdier also and while they do not look exactly like a paperback cover, they usually resemble the paper cover. Their laminated book jackets, attached to the books almost never come off, and they are much nicer than the ones from other vendors that are just plactic covers put on over the dust jacket. We have tried to laminate a few covers oursleves, on books from other sources, and have found that they bubble on the shiny paper. The BTSB lamination is smooth and does not bubble at all. They are an excellent source in every area, has been my experience. I have purchased from BTSB for 21 years and in comparison to =46ollett and Perma, BTSB is the winner. Very strong bindings and they now print their covers in such a way that the picture does NOT wear off, a past problem. Plus they send you the dust jackets. =46ollett is almost as good but you have to specify No Trade Bindings each time. Follett does replace any books that come apart or wear in other ways. I order from both Follett and BTSB. I order from ASSOCIATED LIBRARIES. 215-476-3200 1-800-219-1071 Also REGENT BOOK CO. 1-800-999-9554 Way back I did order from Bound to Stay bound, but these two seemed to give excellent service. Why not order a Marc Brown title that gets a lot of use from both and compare their life span? I love BTST books. They don't charge shipping and the binding is very good. They are my preference over any other company. Hard information? All I have is many years of experience in ordering from BTSB. I spent 17 years as elementary librarian and during that time ordered 95% of my books from BTSB. If a book with their binding wore out, that meant that was the most popular book in the library - i.e. "Tales of a Fourth-Grade Nothing" (I'm dating myself.) As high school librarian for the past 5 years, I've ordered some material from BTSB, but they don't have a large selection for 11th and 12th grades in my opinion. The quality of their paper and binding is better than any other company I've ever used, and their prices are well in line with other places. As you can tell, I've been sold for years on BTSB When I was in an elementary library, BTSB was my favorite jobber - no errors in Marc records, great fulfillment rate, super customer service, very few book repairs due to the durability of their bindings - all in all, an elementary librarian's dream come true! If I had to order a new core collection, I would definitely go with BTSB! I cannot give you positive stats, but I use Bound to Stay Bound Books in our library. We do not have a budget for rebinding books. With the exception o= f Books from our bookfair, special order books for teacher requests, and some reference books, we order exclusively from BTSB. The books last through at least 100+ checkouts. I will have to rebind those books from other sources before I have to bind a BTSB book. This is opinion only--I recently received a few BTSB books. The paper is nice, quality, white paper unlike PermaBound which sometimes sends out the easily yellowed type of paper in a nice binding. The BTSB quarantee if the same as PermaBound. I would be tempted to go with BTSB as an experiment for a year myself. BUT I personally think the most important reason to chose a vendor is the personal service that the sales rep gives YOU. My rep for Follett will walk on water for me. He double checks areas where I regularly make mistakes, he sends me exchange books if the company makes a mistake, he also sends me promotional stuff--calendars, posters, notecards, he will install the CD-ROM if I can't or don't have time. In other words--look for the personal qualities not necessarily the quality of the books. We have purchased Bound-to-Stay-Bound books for well over twenty years. I HIGHLY recommend them. The bindings are sturdy and durable. The covers are washable. The corners and covers don't crack, bend or break as easily if the book is accidently dropped. The shelf life of Bound-to-Stay-Bound books outlasts any company I have purchased from. I don't know what you mean by "hard" information, but I do the bulk of my ordering from Bound to Stay Bound. They are very reliable about getting the titles I need, the books are very durable, and the company is quick and easy to work with. Also their prices are good. I order the books with the laminated covers attached and find them to be very appealing to the children--bright colors and they look new for a very long time. I use them for mostly fiction, early readers and picture books. For really specific nonfiction, I sometimes need to shop around. My goodness, is this librarian limited to only ordering from one vendor? I've ordered from BTSB, PermaBound, Follett, Mook & Blanchard, and others and have found them to all be reliable. Bound to Stay Bound books are the ONLY books that I would purchase for my library. They last forever!! I highly recommend them. Cynthia Schulz, Ph.D. cschulz@eagle.esd189.wednet.edu Director of Learning Resources Northwest Educational Service District 189 Mt. Vernon, Washington =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST * NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=