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Dear LM_Netters : Thanks to all of you who responded to my query! It seems I am not the only one who has been puzzling over this. Below I will try to distill all the info I received into some logical form - there were so many replies that it would unwieldy for me to include every one. As to where people store their videotapes: People were almost equally divided between intershelving and separate storage. Those of you who intershelved all gave the same reason - that it makes sense to treat videos simply as "information in yet another form," and include them alongside books. Those of you who did not intershelve cited three main reasons - first was the matter of security; secondly, the difficulty of keeping intershelved materials neat; and thirdly, sometimes teachers come in looking for "a video to show" and separate shelving makes it easier for them to look through what the library owns. For the more complicated issue of cataloging locally recorded tapes that have more than one program on them, EVERYONE was adamant about making sure that a patron could access each title easily. Suggestions varied on how to do this. When I sat down to prepare this HIT, I was intending to summarize all of the suggestions I received into something succinct, but after a few stabs at it I realized that it really wouldn't serve to do this - after all, I considered just about every suggestion I got in formulating my policy ( a policy which I am very pleased with - THANK YOU ALL!). So... I thought you guys ought to have as much info as possible. Some of the ideas were unsuitable for my system, but might work for you. Below are excerpts from the most useful replies: ...I catalog the off-air video tapes according to the first program on the tape as the main entry. Using Follett cataloging, you can add additional titles for programs 2, etc. If you then use Follett's Search Plus, it should still access program #2, etc. when you search under title .When you are cataloging, describe "briefly" all 2-3 programs under Contents orSummary in the catalog format, labeling each independently, i.e.: #1:Pyramid : relates the building....etc., #2 U.S. Constitution : focuses on ...., #3 Art History, etc.There's no other way to assign Dewey #s except for the first program on the tape. And that's what I do. So, users can search exact title, but also subject, as long as you put in extra subject headings in your cataloging... ...wouldn't it work if I made the Dewey number something like an encyclopedia (030.x) for general information, used Locally Recorded Videotape No. xxx as the title so I could get it into Follett, and then did added entries for each of the titles on the tape? Sort of like what we do for short story anthologies for which we want each short story to show up in the catalog. Or ... I could treat each show as a separate entry, with a separate barcode, Dewey, and title, just making sure I included a local code (AV xxx) in the title so I could locate it. I would have to make a note on each show's record that Show ABC (Barcode xxx/AV xxx) and Show DEF (Barcode xxx/AV xxx) were on the same tape as Show GHI so that if someone wanted to take out the tape AV xxx, we could instantly check the computer to see if the barcodes for the other shows on the same tape were available. One thing I do like about this system is that each show's Dewey shows up with all the other holdings of the same Dewey if we're doing a bibliographic search by Dewey. Or ...I could keep a Rolodex of available show titles by prime and secondary Dewey number with their tape number (i.e., title) on the Rolodex card. That way patrons could search manually for possibilities, check the computer for availability by title (Locally Recorded Videotape No. xxx), and go from there... ... I do quick cataloging for each title, even if there is more than one title on the tape. I assign a Dewey number, use the title as the main entry, put the length ofthe title in the collation, add a short annotation, and assign a couple of subject headings. I also use the curriculum correlation field (207) to assign each title to one or more academic departments. I use this to generate customized lists of videos for departments. I also note when the tape must be erased and the titles of any other videos on the same tape. I also use the date entered field so when I send a list of new videos to the faculty, I can do a search of just those videos added since my last update... ...I have a friend who simply puts more than one barcode on the video --she uses a separate barcode # for each program and checks out the video using the correct barcode for the program that the teacher wants. I am afraid my student aides would never do that correctly! She can, however, track the use of each individual program. She does a catalog entry for each program... ... I don't put more than 1 on a tape but you could at least put the same type of program and then give it a subject heading that is close. Say SCIENCE or ANIMALS for instance. I also keep an notebook in the AV room with a list of all the AV we have. I put it in sections like Language Arts, Science, etc. Most of the teachers look at it instead of the card catalog and I try to keep it very up to date... ...In the MARC record put the first title in 245 tag _a. Then put in your _h [videorecording]. Then put a ; . Then in _b put the second title and semi-colon and the next title, a semi-colon and the next, etc. But you're not done. Go the bottom of the record and in 740 additional entries title put the second title. Add more 740s and more titles until every title has its own title entry. Now your students can find the tape by title searches on any title... ...Currently we are putting each program on a separate tape and then assigning it a number: i.e.-100, 101 ect. Then we have a list that we provided each staff member. They ask for each video by title and number... ...It sounds as if you keep the two types of tapes separate. If you do would DDCing the professional ones and acquisition numbering home made ones work? Your multiple titles would each carry the accession number only as a locator. You will probably be deleting a lot of this stuff as well... So.. perhaps you are wondering what I decided to do. My newly revised policy appears below. It is designed around the financial necessity of putting several programs on a single tape, the necessity of accessing tapes by title or subject but not necessarily by Dewey, and allows me to run a complete videotape listing (by running a Series bibliography) for anyone who wants to know "what videos we have." We have also committed to keeping tapes in a cabinet, rather than intershelving them. We, too, have found that tapes make the shelves look ragged and besides, teachers often come in here "looking for a tape." I am using Follett Circ Plus, by the way: For Locally Recorded Videotapes In the MARC record : Title field (245) - title or first title goes in _a tag. Other titles go in _b tag, separated by semicolons. I insert [Videorecording] in _h tag. In Series field, I insert Videotape Collection (for running my list) 740 field (additional titles) - I input each title in _b tag of title field as an additional title. I then assign subject headings to cover all programs on tape. My local call number is a three digit number, plus the letters LRV for Locally Recorded Videotape - i.e. 001 LRV. This piece of the process was sticky. I know it may require an extra step to keep track of what LRV number I am up to when I input new tapes. My assistant and I talked and talked about this. Other possibilites were using Dewey designation for first program on tape (in this case LRV tapes would just be interspersed among the commercial ones in the cabinet), or creating some kind of date-inspired number so that you would never have to check a list to see what number you were up to (i.e. tape recorded on March 11, 1998 would be 31198 or some such thing.) In the end, the three digit number seemed the simplest to file. In terms of Dewey #'s vs. LRV #'s, we decided it might be a good thing to have all the LRV's shelved next to one another in our cabinet (Easier to check tapes to see if any were past their taping rights date, etc.) So, the three digit LRV number won out. So - there it is... And I couldn't have done it without you guys! Thanks to everyone who responded to me. Any questions, feel free to email. Robin Dorsty, Librarian Pierson High School, Sag Harbor New York 11963 shdorsro@sagharbro.k12.ny.us =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST * NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=