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A month ago I posted an inquiry on the above (to aid 1999 budgeting) and got 8 replies from USA, Australia, and New Zealand, and some requests for a HIT. List members may find them useful? Many thanks to those who responded. ........................................................................... ....................... (1) Next year we are looking at either World Magazine Bank (Ebsco) (they can give you a trial CDROM - we used to have the old text/dos version and it was a pain but I believe the Windows version is much improved. Contains Australasian sources too and from UK. $500 for a year or 1100 for quarterly updates) or SIRS - Web access. You can sign up for 60 day trial. Can't remember price. Both have full text articles - (some are fulltext I should say.) Expensive but good - about $NZ 2000) Reuters $1500 - seems expensive but you get full text and bang up to date plus fX and shares etc. Britannica Online is very good - $US50 individual pa or you can get a site licence but I don't know how much yet. It's the encyclopedia but it's updated frequently. Also takes natural language searching. (just been quoted $2097.00 for 15 workstations) Also use Homework Central www.homeworkcentral.com Scout Report http://scout.cs.wisc.edu/scout/ Mark Treadwell's Teachers @ Work monthly website listings http://www.work.co.nz $145 per year for monthly updates and $34 per folder. Encarta is popular - good diagrams and many have it at home. Too high a level at times and just right in other articles. Same for World Book and EB. Can get good deal on multiple users if you belong to EdCom. M/S said it was worth paying to belong and get the deals - also get telecom discounts. Things like Ancient Lands are good and How thing Work. So is How Stuff Works www.howstuffworks.com We found an excellent CDROM on Indigenous Australians - if you are interested let me know and I'll look out the details. Sites like KidsClick! are excellent - organised by librarians. sunsite.berkeley.edu/kidsclick The English Online site is going to be very helpful. We have already found some good units there. http://english.unitecnology.ac.nz Also the Virtual Reference Desk run by ERIC and US Nat Lib of Ed. Excellent list of subject and curriculum sites for asking questions - AskA sites. http://www.vrd.org Ask Jeeves can be helpful www.aj.com Hope this is of some help Liz ======================================================= Elizabeth Probert Pakuranga College Information Centre Pigeon Mountain Road Bucklands Beach *** http://pakuranga.school.nz Auckland *** liz@pakuranga.school.nz New Zealand *** 64 9 5347158(Ph) 64 9 5343576(F) *KidsConnect Volunteer* ======================================================= ........................................................................... .......................................... (2) The Focussed Investigation in to Document Delivery Options at Loughborough university UK may offer you some useful information. The project is due to be completed in Spring 1999 and the web pages will be updated very soon. The home page is at: http://dils2.lboro.ac.uk/fiddo/fiddo.html Sophie Lowley Postgrauate at Loughborough university, UK ........................................................................... ................................................ (3) I find that World Magazine Bank (CD ROM, EBSCO, $1045 for quarterly updates) is very useful. Particularly here, where the magazine stock was almost solely sport-oriented, and there are no back files. The contact person for EBSCO is Sarah Siddells at EBSCO subscription services, Private Bag 99914, Newmarket, Auckland. Gives full text of many periodicals, and good abstracts for others. Indexes over 400 all up. We have just purchased Interactive Physics (not sure where from) and it is very popular with the boys. Also PC maps and facts is a good source of uptodate info. Hope this helps Sue estermans@scotscollege.school.nz ........................................................................... ........................................... (4) Have you looked at ProQuest Direct's KidQuest Product, or other versions of ProQuest Direct? They are subscription based which makes it good for budgeting, and KidQuest is designed for younger users. More information is available at http://www.umi.com, including a web-based tour. I was recently at NZLIA talking to a number of school librarians who showed great interest. UMI are very interested to put together consortia packages in Australia and New Zealand, and would be interested in feedback on content and interface. Title lists can be found at http://www.umi.com/cgi-bin/TitleForm?cfg=EduTitles.cf Free trials are available and can be requested from the web site. Regards Julie Stevens ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SADIS Stevens & Dent Information Services Pty Ltd PO Box 1398 Rozelle NSW 2039 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 (0) 2 9555 6033 Fax: +61 (0) 2 9555 6530 sadis@zip.com.au ........................................................................... ............................................... (5) Reuters is useful as it is NZ based. Students (and some staff) do need to sharpen their searching skills to get the most from it. However it is always up to date. You get FX and share prices too updated. What about World Magazine Bank from Ebsco - that's very useful. Sirs is good for social issues but pricey at $2300+ <gulp> although easy to use via WWW. I investigated Encyclopedia Brit online - they quoted me $2098 for 20 users <gulp again> Is it still possible to get the Time Magazine CDROM? We haven't got past 1994 but it is/was really useful. Does anyone know a supplier? ........................................................................... ............................................. (6) I'm not too familiar with Reuters education package, but this year in my library we have subscribed to The Electric Library. We've found it quite handy so far. The site license covers all the computers in the building so it is available in the library, the computer labs and the science technology lab. One of the databases it does search through is Reuters (news and business, I believe), but I'm not sure what the differences would be between that and Reuters itself. If you check out E-Library's website, it will give you a listing of the different database it accesses. We use the Win95 interface that accesses our school district's LAN Internet connect, that way if a student hasn't signed an Internet Agreement Policy, they still have access to the database (it just limits them to E-Library). The Win95 software also allows you some control over printing/management. I'm not sure if the web- based version does. Our price runs just around $2,000.00 American, so I'm not sure what NZ would be. We tried the program out on a 2 week free trial before we decided to purchase it, our science teachers liked it and it seemed very helpful for other subjects. It looks like on their website that they are offerring 30 day free trials. Lynda Gibson Library Media Specialist Flushing Junior High Flushing, Michigan, USA ........................................................................... .............................................. (7) tim@infosentials.com www.elibrary.com.au Tim Burke suggests that : "the average sized High School can access all that content (4,600,000 articles) for about A$2,500 per annum with a 5 simultaneous user licence." NZ content is to come - just received a priority list from NZ Public Libraries post NZLIA. Would like some guidance from Secondary Schools as to what should be there. A full pricing list is available from Tim. ........................................................................... ................................................ (8) I have requested a trial run of Reuters, Electric Library and ProQuest over the next month. Most people seem to favour Electric Library but I suspect it will be a bit expensive for us. I am allowed to spend about $1500 if I cut out a few other items and train the staff in the use of the resource. The Reuters education package is priced at $1500, and the others rumoured to be about $2000+. ProQuest is discussing a deal linking a number of schools to cut down on costs but nothing has come of it so far. I have stopped using INNZ because of the indifferent copying quality and the reluctance of the modern miss to wait for material to arrive - everything must be instant these days. I also tried INL Online and found it cumbersome to use and very time consuming. At the moment I subscribe to, and enjoy World Magazine Bank on CDROM - the online sub. is too expensive for us - this CD will be one of the ones to go if we take up Reuters etc. Bill Siddells Library Manager Correspondence School 258 Thorndon Quay Private Bag 39992 Wellington New Zealand. Ph: 04 474 4371 Fax: 04 499 4607 Email: bill.siddells@correspondence.school.nz =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 3) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=