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I sent out a query about whether or not HS LMC's were open at night. Again, there were requests for a hit. So here it is. Thanks everyone who replied. ORIGINAL QUERY: There has been some discussion in my town about opening the LMC up at night for the community to use. (not for meetings, this already happens!) If you do this in your town, can you tell me how successful it is? Do alot of people use the school LMC at night? Is it students or community members? Do they use mostly print or non-print? ________________________________________________________________________ _____ Our school board wants the library open evenings, so we are open 4 nights a week (M-Th) from 5:45-9:15. A person is hired to supervise (no library experience or training, but after all, a warm body can do this job!) ;-) We also have an ITV room, mostly unused, nearby, so the evening person is responsible for this. I would say that the library is used mostly for the computers. We have 19 hooked up to the Internet. Students will come in as needed for word processing. On the downside, people tend to "mess up" the computers probably trying to outwit our filters, and when I try to use the machines in the morning, we often have problems - some small, some big. ________________________________________________________________________ _____ we received a grant and opened up one night a week - even giving books away for free we never go more than 25 people or so and most were faculty members. I think it's a good idea but will take longer to catch on. We do it by request now. ________________________________________________________________________ _____ Our LMC is open for students only an additional 3 hours after school. While it provides a great service, it is underused even after 5 years of operation. We have a part-time librarian (retired from another high school) and a clerk "man" the library. So who uses it? Student avoiding gang members. Students legitimately studying. Students who would otherwise go home to an empty house. And, especially athletes who get out of practice too late for the afterschool bus, and too early for the late, athletic bus. BTW, while most do some homework, many of the students want to use the Internet after school. ________________________________________________________________________ _____ We are trying this on a trial basis right now. We are open one night a week for an extra 5 hours. We have had from 2-14 users per night, mostly students, mostly using the computer to do research or type up reports. Our 7-12 school population is 400. When I make a recommendation for next year, I will probably suggest that we still stay open at least one night a week, but not for 5 hours. Very few people come in after 8 o'clock. ________________________________________________________________________ _____ We tried it about 4 years ago. We are in the midst of library heaven here - a large university library behind us and the best of the public library branches in our school district, so, we found little use in the evening. Our use was mostly students. Our collection (and the school library's mission) is really different from the PL, so there wasn't much interest. Student use, and then the time limits it to those older ones, who drive. Print, but no check out. ________________________________________________________________________ _______ We have a grant to keep our high school open two nights a week. so far the attendance is light to say the least 0-5 students. We announce it each T-TH, put a sign on the lmc door, but few comers. The other two high schools which have been doing this onger get 10-12 students on a good night. Our public library has decreased circulation. I wonder if this could have something to do with kids being able to do research at home online? ________________________________________________________________________ _____ This has come up for discussion in my district as well. The majority felt that most people have computers at home, therefore negating the need for computer access, and we are also connected to the district public libraries through the OPAC and interloan, so it was determined to be unnecessary. We are open for 45 minutes before school and for 1 hour after school, however. We did an informal survey with students and most said they wouldn't come back up to the school later in the day - they'd prefer to do their homework at home. We also made it clear that if we were going to offer library services after hours that it would require employing a certified library media specialist, otherwise we weren't really offering library services. We stressed this point. Of course, paying another teacher's salary is not usually on top of the list of ways for administrator's to spend their money. ________________________________________________________________________ _____ We have opened our high school library in the evenings since 1986. We do have a small (1,000) children's collection of materials there. We fund this through the local city council. They give us money to pay for an evening library clerk. However, in recent years our school board has indicated that they feel this is a valuable community service for our students as well as others so this year we expanded the number of hours we are open and added summer hours with our board paying the difference in cost. Evening hours have always generated some use but it was low until we added 20+ internet computers to our library. The use skyrocketed. Now it is an even mix between our own students and community members. Circulation of print has remained steady through the years so the increase is tied to internet use. ________________________________________________________________________ _____ I am a library media specialist at Bristol Eastern High School in Bristol, Ct. WE have been experimenting with having the library open one evening a week since January. Tonight is the last night for the year. I am the only certified staff member and I work from 7:00 A.M. to 8>00 P.M. on Tuesdays. I have had some students (very few) every night that I have worked and a few (very few) have come with a parent. It is supposed to be open to the public as well, with the understanding that books will only circulate to students. However, I have not done much publicity in the community because I have some real concerns about security. The public library has a guard on duty in the evenings.... Now I can go to my car,l and it will still be light, but all winter long I had some concerns about that as well as being pretty vulnerable to anyone who wanted to saunter in.... I think that if your administration is serious about having the library open that is one aspect that should be addressed. Frankly, I could be open until 5:00 every day and have lots of students.......after that, I don't think that it is worth the money that they are paying me to stay. Too few students make use of it to be worth my time or their money. If you have any other questions, please feel free to send me a return e-mail. ________________________________________________________________________ _____ My library opened up on Monday nights after our city library closed. We advertised heavily, but only a handful of public come in. The ones who want to use a library go 20 miles to another PL. My asst. and I found the evenings deadly and were ready to go home at 6:30 (we are open until 8pm) so I started offering very basic internet classes to the public and my Monday's have been filled, with extra classes being offered. This will end in June, as will the grant that kept us open. I've met a segment of the community that I wouldn't have. Many retirees. For me, that was worth it. We do have a small group of students who choose to stay and hang out, but other students are gone by 4:30 and that usage wasn't consistent enough to try this again. So, meeting the public was great, we provide a Monday night "home" for a few, but the energy level drops after 5! ________________________________________________________________________ _____ We did this last year. I was paid $25 per hour, worked 4 hours a night for 24 weeks. I had few patrons, mainly students, most just surfing. It was a great time to get caught up on work. ________________________________________________________________________ _____ We are a small town with about 280 kids K-12. With a grant last year, we funded extended library hours on Tuesday nights from 6 - 8 p.m.. This allowed the community to come and use the internet, etc. The aide who manned the station had cookies, and advertised well, but we only had a handful of people take advantage of it. As she said, it attracted the 'left-at-home'crowd of kids and they were the regulars. I'm going to try it again next year, though. We paid the aide $10 per hour for two hours a week. ________________________________________________________________________ _____ Last year, attempts were made to keep the HS open at night. Parent volunteers tried for 8 months to have extended day hours (an additional hour on 2 days past the hour we already keep it open) and for 2 hours (7-9P.M) on Wed. nite. It was an absolute failure; noone showed up to use it. Part of issue is that afternoons students are bussed; those with cars usually have jobs. At night, students can go to college or large public libraries. The idea was that the computers could be used by the public to do taxes or college financial aid forms. I felt that this could be done at our two computer labs outside the library and not involve me or my staff. To be honest I was opposed to the idea. I felt that there was a safety issue in asking anyone to work alone in an isolated part of a building. I also felt there was no curriculum need. When surveyed all but 5 frosh owned home computers and research in out curriculum appears to me to be done at home on the INTERNET. I am usually here at least 1/2 before school starts and I never have students clamoring to get in for library materials. The only line is to use our copy machine! 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