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--============_-1238484144==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I sent this query to YALSA as well as the library listserv and received many thoughtful answers - many faulted the principal for poor leadership, management, and, perhaps, violation of right to read - I just think that she got spooked by the title even after I gave her reviews. It really doesn't speak much about her confidence in me as a 25 year professional - but, it is really the way the school is managed, and yes, the climate is very bad at my Middle School. I would like to confine the hits to comments on the book, not on the event of the pulling of this book from a list, unread, without discussion. That is my problem and I will find the right arena to deal with it. As you can see just from these selected comments, this book does provoke discussion. I may or may not have it in the collection soon, but the problem of school violence does not go away. Stefanie Halliday I haven't heard of this book being challenged yet, but I did read it. The author does make it clear through a note at the end and through shocking statistics and quotations about school violence and teen violence with guns that he feels SOMETHING has to be done about children's access to guns. I wonder if your principal is worried about that point of view? On the other hand, the book is very much Columbine-like. Maybe she is afraid of this happening at your school and is afraid this book is an example of how some troubled kids could get revenge? I don't want to give too much away if you haven't read it, but suffice it to say, the book doesn't go into much detail about HOW the teens do what they do. It does talk about WHY they do what they do. A colleague and I recently gave a presentation at our statewide conference on YA lit and I recommended this one to everyone. While the author's opinion that something needs to be done to prevent teen access to guns is clear, he also does a remarkable job giving different points of view. Maybe I'm not helping much here, but isn't there any way you can convince him or her to READ the book and then pass judgement? I think he or she might be surprised at the balance of points of view. Vicki Reutter, LMS I was one of the original reviewers of this title, for SLJ. I received it back in May and was turned off before I read it because I felt it was an instant rip-off of the Columbine incident .......something like those made for TV movies.......... though I was a fan of Todd Strasser and was very impressed by his previous title, The Wave. So, I put my prejudices aside and read it.........but still didn't care for it.......so I gave it to an English teacher and then two students. The teacher disliked it (same reasons as mine) but both students loved it. We decided that it was the type of book that appeals to students who like to relive these tragedies and who also like "diary" type books in the fashion of Jay's Journal, Go Ask Alice, etc. In that way it is cathartic. It is not well written....as I stated in my review.....I particularly dislike the newspaper clipping additions and the author's intrusive opinions. However, I think your administrator may be reacting to the bold title and cover jacket graphics. There is certainly no glorification of the boys' actions and there is an obvious message to troubled kids that there are LOTS of people, teachers, counselors and friends around you that care if you take a chance on them. Below is a copy of my review as I sent it (the SLJ editors changed some of the wording.) I'd be very interested in any follow up on this book. Thanks! STRASSER, Todd. Give a Boy a Gun. 145p. Simon & Schuster.2000. Tr $16.00. ISBN 0-689-81112-8. LC number unavailable. Gr 8 Up- Two boys go on a shooting rampage at Middletown High School and follow up by committing suicide. Sound familiar? It happens in the gymnasium, not the library, but you get the idea. It is told to us in a series of interviews, after-the-fact, by a college student who reveals her relationship to the case at the end of the book. She tries to piece together the puzzle of the tragedy by gathering recollections of the two boys beginning in grade school. Gary was very bright, quiet and had a weight problem. Brendan was a thin boy, defensive and quick to anger. As the chapters move from eighth grade up, we hear from classmates and teachers that these boys were outcasts and potential trouble. They remain flat, two-dimensional characters, however, and we know exactly what their suicide notes will say and how the events will play out. Statistics, quotes and facts from actual school shootings appear in dark print at the bottom of the pages and are meant to give relevance to the text. An appendix includes a chronology of school shootings in the United States, the author's own treatise on gun control and places to get more information. Where this book lacks the literary merit you hope for in a work of fiction, it will satisfy the empathetic teenage reader and might succeed as a springboard for a class discussion of school violence. Vicki Reutter, Cazenovia High School, NY. Barry Goldblatt Sigh, sounds to me like a clear cut case of reacting to a title without ever reading the book. Why is it that so many educators think keeping kids in the dark about reality is a good way to get them to behave? Strasser has done a remarkable job of painting the landscape of a violent shooting incident. He looks at it from every side, and manages to condemn violence without ever getting preachy. I think some people noted they thought it was nonfiction...that's a real compliment to Strasser's work. Buy it, read it, hand it to teens and TALK to them about it! Patty Campbell Joan, I think the reason you're getting heat on Give a Boy a Gun is political. It's a white hot statement on gun control. Strasser intersperses the voices of the witnesses and participants in a school shooting with actual news clips and statistics about gun violence. Although he makes a stab at objectivitiy by putting the position of the NRA in the mouths of two characters, there is no doubt that he is passionately advocating gun control, and that's a very hot issue in some areas of the country. I think this is a book and an issue that you might want to fight for. I have read Todd Strasser's book and I assume your principal pulled the book because it concerns two school shooters. Frankly, I thought the book was dreadful and my agent concurred. The book's plot is lifted straight from Columbine--two misfits, e mail, gunning down the popular kids that torment them. He sets it in a high school gym (shades of King's Carrie) during the prom rather than the library during the day. The book is fragmented with short views from many of the participants. I could see no effort at all to make the voices of these character different in any way. To further the fragmentation there are factoids at the bottom of each page about how bad guns are. Duh? I found nothing original or noteworthy or even thought provoking. Just a rehash of something that was reported better in the newspapers and mags. Never was there a look at why some kids! ! implode and others explode. I know I'm really going on here, but I've never seen a book I disliked more. And I snapped it up because I loved The WAVE and expected so much more from this subject. THe starred reviews perplex me to no end. It makes me wonder if I know a good book from a bad one, much less one that's simply mediocre. Gail Giles -- Joan S. Chase 2700 Marl Oak Dr. Highland Park, IL 60035 jchase@interaccess.com --============_-1238484144==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <!doctype html public "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li { margin-top: 0 ; margin-bottom: 0 } --></style><title>Hit Middle give the boy a Gun</title></head><body> <div>I sent this query to YALSA as well as the library listserv and received many thoughtful answers - many faulted the principal for poor leadership, management, and, perhaps, violation of right to read - I just think that she got spooked by the title even after I gave her reviews. It really doesn't speak much about her confidence in me as a 25 year professional - but, it is really the way the school is managed, and yes, the climate is very bad at my Middle School. I would like to confine the hits to comments on the book, not on the event of the pulling of this book from a list, unread, without discussion. That is my problem and I will find the right arena to deal with it. As you can see just from these selected comments, this book does provoke discussion. I may or may not have it in the collection soon, but the problem of school violence does not go away.</div> <div><br></div> <div>Stefanie Halliday</div> <div>I haven't heard of this book being challenged yet, but I did read it.<br> The author does make it clear through a note at the end and through<br> shocking statistics and quotations about school violence and teen violence<br> with guns that he feels SOMETHING has to be done about children's<br> access to guns. I wonder if your principal is worried about that point of<br> view? On the other hand, the book is very much Columbine-like. Maybe she<br> is afraid of this happening at your school and is afraid this book is<br> an example of how some troubled kids could get revenge? I don't want to<br> give too much away if you haven't read it, but suffice it to say, the book<br> doesn't go into much detail about HOW the teens do what they do. It does<br> talk about WHY they do what they do. A colleague and I recently gave<br> a presentation at our statewide conference on YA lit and I recommended<br> this one to everyone. While the author's opinion that something needs to<br> be done to prevent teen access to guns is clear, he also does a remarkable<br> job giving different points of view. Maybe I'm not helping much here, but<br> isn't there any way you can convince him or her to READ the book and<br> then pass judgement? I think he or she might be surprised at the balance<br> of points of view.</div> <div>Vicki Reutter, LMS</div> <div>I was one of the original reviewers of this title, for SLJ. I received it<br> back in May and was turned off before I read it because I felt it was an<br> instant rip-off of the Columbine incident .......something like those made<br> for TV movies.......... though I was a fan of Todd Strasser and was very<br> impressed by his previous title, The Wave.<br> So, I put my prejudices aside and read it.........but still didn't care<br> for it.......so I gave it to an English teacher and then two students. The<br> teacher disliked it (same reasons as mine) but both students loved it. We<br> decided that it was the type of book that appeals to students who like to<br> relive these tragedies and who also like "diary" type books in the fashion of<br> Jay's Journal, Go Ask Alice, etc. In that way it is cathartic. It is not well<br> written....as I stated in my review.....I particularly dislike the newspaper<br> clipping additions and the author's intrusive opinions. However, I think your<br> administrator may be reacting to the bold title and cover jacket graphics.<br> There is certainly no glorification of the boys' actions and there is an<br> obvious message to troubled kids that there are LOTS of people, teachers,<br> counselors and friends around you that care if you take a chance on them.<br> Below is a copy of my review as I sent it (the SLJ editors changed some of<br> the wording.) I'd be very interested in any follow up on this book. Thanks!<br> STRASSER, Todd. Give a Boy a Gun. 145p. Simon & Schuster.2000. Tr $16.00.<br> ISBN 0-689-81112-8. LC number unavailable.</div> <div><br></div> <div><br> <br> Gr 8 Up- Two boys go on a shooting rampage at Middletown High School and<br> follow up by committing suicide. Sound familiar? It happens in the<br> gymnasium, not the library, but you get the idea. It is told to us in a<br> series of interviews, after-the-fact, by a college student who reveals her<br> relationship to the case at the end of the book. She tries to piece together</div> <div>the puzzle of the tragedy by gathering recollections of the two boys<br> beginning in grade school. Gary was very bright, quiet and had a weight<br> problem. Brendan was a thin boy, defensive and quick to anger. As the<br> chapters move from eighth grade up, we hear from classmates and teachers that<br> these boys were outcasts and potential trouble. They remain flat,<br> two-dimensional characters, however, and we know exactly what their suicide<br> notes will say and how the events will play out. Statistics, quotes and<br> facts from actual school shootings appear in dark print at the bottom of the<br> pages and are meant to give relevance to the text. An appendix includes a<br> chronology of school shootings in the United States, the author's own<br> treatise on gun control and places to get more information. Where this book<br> lacks the literary merit you hope for in a work of fiction, it will satisfy<br> the empathetic teenage reader and might succeed as a springboard for a class</div> <div>discussion of school violence. Vicki Reutter, Cazenovia High School, NY.</div> <div><br></div> <div>Barry Goldblatt</div> <div>Sigh, sounds to me like a clear cut case of reacting to a title without ever reading the book. Why is it that so many educators think keeping kids in the dark about reality is a good way to get them to behave?</div> <div><br></div> <div>Strasser has done a remarkable job of painting the landscape of a violent shooting incident. He looks at it from every side, and manages to condemn violence without ever getting preachy. I think some people noted they thought it was nonfiction...that's a real compliment to Strasser's work. Buy it, read it, hand it to teens and TALK to them about it!</div> <div><br></div> <div><br></div> <div>Patty Campbell</div> <div>Joan, I think the reason you're getting heat on Give a Boy a Gun is<br> political. It's a white hot statement on gun control. Strasser intersperses<br> the voices of the witnesses and participants in a school shooting with actual<br> news clips and statistics about gun violence. Although he makes a stab at<br> objectivitiy by putting the position of the NRA in the mouths of two<br> characters, there is no doubt that he is passionately advocating gun control,<br> and that's a very hot issue in some areas of the country. I think this is a</div> <div>book and an issue that you might want to fight for.</div> <div><br></div> <div><br></div> <div><font size="-1">I have read Todd Strasser's book and I assume your principal pulled the book<br> because it concerns two school shooters. Frankly, I thought the book was<br> dreadful and my agent concurred. The book's plot is lifted straight from<br> Columbine--two misfits, e mail, gunning down the popular kids that torment<br> them. He sets it in a high school gym (shades of King's Carrie) during the<br> prom rather than the library during the day. The book is fragmented with<br> short views from many of the participants. I could see no effort at all to<br> make the voices of these character different in any way. To further the<br> fragmentation there are factoids at the bottom of each page about how bad<br> guns are. Duh? I found nothing original or noteworthy or even thought<br> provoking. Just a rehash of something that was reported better in the<br> newspapers and mags. Never was there a look at why some kids! ! implode and<br> others explode. <br> <br> I know I'm really going on here, but I've never seen a book I disliked more. <br> And I snapped it up because I loved The WAVE and expected so much more from<br> this subject. THe starred reviews perplex me to no end. It makes me wonder</font></div> <div><font size="-1">if I know a good book from a bad one, much less one that's simply mediocre.</font></div> <div><font size="-1"><br></font></div> <div><font size="-1">Gail Giles</font></div> <div>-- <br> Joan S. Chase<br> 2700 Marl Oak Dr.<br> Highland Park, IL 60035<br> jchase@interaccess.com</div> </body> </html> --============_-1238484144==_ma============-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. 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