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Jeffrey, from what I understand, this quote is bogus (which may be the
reason you're having trouble finding the source.<g>) John McChesney-Young,
from the LATINTEACH listserv, forwarded the following sites/explanations to
me. Hope this helps! :)

Dianna
Vīta sine litterīs mors est.
===============================

The (bogus) quote discussed here?

http://www.qis.net/~jschmitz/afu/youth.htm

http://www.pinn.net/~skipperb/quotes.html

See also the archives of the Stumpers-l:

http://listserv.dom.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S2=stumpers-l&L=STUMPERS-L&q=%28child
ren+now+love+luxury%29&s=&f=&a=&b=

in particular the latest hit:

http://listserv.dom.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0208&L=STUMPERS-L&P=R6355

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Carr" <jlcarr@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: [LM_NET] REF: FOUND QUOTE, NEED SOURCE


> Thank you to the quick fingers of an LM-Net member, I was directed to the
> archives. The quote is there, but there is no bibliographic backup. Does
> anyone have a corroborative source? It seems that a lot of these aphorisms
> and quotes have dubious validity. I find that with quotes by Lincoln,
> Einstein and Socrates, people don't source their quotes; even God gets
> sourced through the Scriptures. As far as I know, Socrates nenver wrote
> anything on his own, but everything was stylized and recorded by his
> student, Plato.
>
> For those of us needing a mid-week chuckle, here is the quote:
>
> "Our youth love luxury. They have bad manners and contempt for their
elders
> and love idle chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants not
the
> servants of the household. They contradict their parents, chatter before
> company. gobble up their food, and tyrannize their teachers."  attributed
to
> Socrates c.450 BCE
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Jeffrey L. Carr
> Teacher-Librarian
> Oak Ridge High School Joint-Use Library
> "Serving the community of El Dorado Hills"
> El Dorado Hills, CA 95762
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> email:  jlcarr@hotmail.com
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