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Thank you to the quick fingers of an LM-Net member, I was directed to the archives. The quote is there, but there is no bibliographic backup. Does anyone have a corroborative source? It seems that a lot of these aphorisms and quotes have dubious validity. I find that with quotes by Lincoln, Einstein and Socrates, people don't source their quotes; even God gets sourced through the Scriptures. As far as I know, Socrates nenver wrote anything on his own, but everything was stylized and recorded by his student, Plato. For those of us needing a mid-week chuckle, here is the quote: "Our youth love luxury. They have bad manners and contempt for their elders and love idle chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants not the servants of the household. They contradict their parents, chatter before company. gobble up their food, and tyrannize their teachers." attributed to Socrates c.450 BCE Thank you, Jeffrey L. Carr Teacher-Librarian Oak Ridge High School Joint-Use Library "Serving the community of El Dorado Hills" El Dorado Hills, CA 95762 voice: (916) 933-6982 fax: (916) 933-6987 email: jlcarr@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=