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"Common Knowledge" seems to imply the writer already knows it, bur really means that it is a fact that is not in dispute and is normally included in a basic reference source. Maybe looking at the Bibliography as a list of everything that was used or consulted in researching the topic rather than just the material cited in the work makes it more clear. You don't need a parenthetical cite for Lincoln's birthday, but a basic encyclopedia article would be included in the bib. Some resources that discuss 'common knowledge' and citations http://www.writing.ku.edu/students/docs/incorp.html http://www.its.caltech.edu/~words/plagiarism/citations.html http://tutorial.lib.umn.edu/infomachine.asp?moduleID=10&lessonID=28 I've not seen the 'five general encyclopedias' as a rule for that. The MLA Handbook 6th ed. Says 'you rarely need to give surces for familiar proverbs...,well-known guotations...,or common knowldedge... But you msut indicate the source of any infomration or material that you took from someone else'(sec 2.6). However, what is considerd 'common knowledge' to a college undergraduate may be different than an 8th grader. And while the 'common knowledge' aspect is somewhat common knowledge, I think I would ask the English teacher to cite their sources on that one. Especially if you are working on a document that would be considered official or standard for the district. There is plenty of writing and research resources out there to base a decision on. It would be a bit redundant and hard to double (or rather 5xcheck) every fact to decide which of those are common knowledge. Maybe use something like 'if it's in the textbook', or 'if you see it twice'. I remember an old parody research paper, everything was footnoted, to the extent there was one or two sentences, then a short line and a long set of footnotes with lots of digressive discussion. Robert Eiffert, Media Specialist Pacific Middle School Evergreen SD, Vancouver Washington beiffert@egreen.wednet.edu beiffert@crypticmachinery.net > > I am working with several LMS on a plagiarism information brochure > > for teachers in our district. At our last meeting one of the LMS > > stated that an English teacher told her that information that is > > "common knowledge" does not have to be cited, either in a > > bibliography or with an in-text citation. The English teacher used > > the example of Abraham's birthday being on Feb 12th. The teacher > > stated that because this information can be located in five general > > encyclopedias, it does not have to be cited. I think this is a poor > > example, because for middle and high school students this would NOT > > be "common knowledge". This generated quite a discussion. I believe > > that we are teaching the entire research process and students need > > to cite all their work. Also, teachers need to require students to > > cite their work. Has anyone run across this "common knowledge" idea? >Yes. You'll find it in the MLA Guidelines as information that recurs in five or more sources (and therefore does >not need to be cited). Lincoln's birthday would be common knowledge. The definition of common knowledge is based >on the nature of the information itself. If you are preparing students for college research, you may wish to teach >them this bit about MLA. It's not just something your English teacher made up. http://www.cbc2.org/instruction/library/mla/Doctutorial2.htm =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-