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There a lot of rules and directions involved in doing a full bib. I'm
thinking it might overwhelm the project (spend 2-3 periods in library
doing research, spend 2-3 periods in library doing bib). And trying it
in a computer lab using OSLIS Citation Maker
(http://www.oslis.k12.or.us/elementary/howto/cited/)
 may introduce some other issues.  There are worksheets and other
resources there to look at.

They should know parts of book, including the info on title page (and
probably verso), but my experience has been that there are a lot of 3rd
graders that don't abstract enough to pull the requisite bits in the
right order to be accurate.

Since we're looking for understanding the concepts (citing work,
evaluating resources, taking good notes, not plagiarizing), maybe a
simplified worksheet for 'Reference materials'. Include Author, Article
title, Title, Copyright date, pages used, URL. And they could fill in as
they are notetaking. That way it gets introduced as an integral part of
the research process, not an add-on.

That wouldn't be in alpha order (the works could be numbered to match
the number put on notes) so 'redoing' to alpha order could be a short
lesson. Then discuss formatting to the extent OK for third grade (I
think the double space and hanging indent would mess up a lot of kids).

Some reasons not to stress all the minutia on the first go-around:
1.Enough stress with the research piece (notes, resource eval)
2.For many, the writing piece is going to be huge; lots of concepts that
aren't fully assimilated
3.We want to get them in the habit of using library, realizing there a
variety of resources and getting a grasp of the process.
4. We don't spend a lot of time with spelling HarperCollins, etc
5. Rules change

Robert Eiffert, Media Specialist
Pacific Middle School
Evergreen SD, Vancouver Washington
beiffert@egreen.wednet.edu
robert@crypticmachinery.net




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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:29 AM
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Subject: Bibliography lesson


Hello everyone,

Was wondering if anyone had any 'creative' ideas on how to teach third
graders how to write a bibliography.  It is part of a unit in which they
research a particular state and use various resources.  It is a
difficult concept for them to understand.  Looking for ways to make it
simpler and easier for them to grasp.  Thanks in advance.

Bonnie Sharrer
K-6 Librarian - The King's Academy

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