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Thank you all for your ideas and support! Just to tell you a little moreabout my situation. In my school district in Charlotte, NC, most elementary schools no longer have library assistants. The classroom teachers use library time (and music, art, gym and computer) as prep time, so they do NOT want to give those times up. My particular principal does not want students sent to her. She says it takes away from our authority. But as at one person pointed out, it is hard to have the same kind of authority as a classroom teacher when you only have a class once a week. Also, my assistant principal does not like the idea of an all-class point system because she says that one kid can spoil it for the whole class and that is wrong. Of course, she has an all-school homework contest in which the class with a 100% homework return gets a party... By the way, word searches are strictly outlawed! Oh well. Thank you again and here is a summary of your ideas! Summary of Discipline - Take no prisoners. One warning and that is all. Then send them out. - Have a Barry the Good Behavior Bear that comes in the kid's class room every week to award that class for good behavior. - Have special areas for especially good kids can go. Or let them line up first to check out. - Work with classroom teachers on discipline ideas. - Have teacher sit in for a while to see what is happening. - Have the student sent to ISS (In-School Suspension) for a few weeks instead of coming to the library. - I have some activities/centers for children to do when the check out process is complete. This eliminates roaming and uproars. Choices: create a bookmark, hidden word puzzles, find waldo pages, map skills activities etc. - As for stopping the class to send a student to the office. That is just what I would do. You need to get that student out of the room immediately. For this we have a form already made, all I need to do is fill it in and send the student to the office. There is a place on the form for the principal to communicate back to the teacher about the action taken, I find this helpful because I will not see this class for a week. - Another good way to show people there are real problems is to set up a video camera. I have been working on my national boards and that requires videotaping lessons. When the video camera is on I have much better behavior. Showing student what they have done wrong is also good. If it is possible to do this it may help the students and you. - An immediate call to parent. Yes, it stopped the class but once kids knew that I was going to be consistent in doing it, I had far fewer problems. At least from those kids who had parents who could be reached during the day. You can bet that the working mother who has gotten called at work will take verbal action then and further action when she and the child are home. - After calling parents, immediate referral to Principal. Have a few of the mandated slips filled in minus Name, Date and Time. Let the Principal know that you will provide exact details as soon as you are free. I was fortunate enough to have the VP's office close enough to my library to be able to talk during passing time. - I have a "personal, brought from home" digital camera. I try to catch them being good as they check out books or work at the tables or being helpful at the OPAC. I then download the pic at night into the computer. I will print out two copies of the pic. One I give to the teacher to give to the student to go home in the Friday folder. The other one goes on a blank wall like a poster. It is a wall of honor. Every kid wants to have their picture taken.I also place it on the lap top and have it scroll in as my screen saver. This is a big thrill for them too. - So the first step in discipline is time out in the library. Second is time out in another classroom Third is loss of recess Fourth is the student making the phone call home (I have a cell phone and it works wonders even though the call costs me money) Fifth is Principal - For a really difficult child: Give the child a special job, like helping me turn the pages. Sometimes he would help pass out browsing sticks. We also gave him a "special X" to sit on in library. His job was to stay on the x. He did wonderful! All he needed was a little encouragement that he was doing something right, and acknowledgement for his efforts. - Harry Wong has a book called the first day of school (I think) that discusses procedures (we walk calmly) vs. rules (keep hands to self). I used to have a rule about talking/raising hands, but think i'm going to change it to Pay attention. I'd rather do a reminder than a consequence every time this happens. It' s best to arrange the room and your procedures (go over it slowly a million times) in order to prevent misbehavior in the first place. - With really disruptive students I will park them in a chair for the remainder of their visit. I also have a form for them to fill out describing what they did. I will not sign it until it depicts what really happened. The student is required to have a parent signature and a plan for better behavior for the next day. I am fortunate that we have pretty good parent backing at our school and I have not had to call parents about discipline problems--just overdue books. - when I have kids acting up in the library I can just send them back to class (being in the Media Center seems to be a reward). I also remind them about the security cameras overhead when the class first visits (even though the pictures cycle every 5 seconds, it seems to be a deterrent because the kids don't know that). I will occasionally park someone in time-out away from the class. For really bad offenses (like hitting another student) I pick up the phone and call the office, or push the emergency button which gets a prompt intercom call from the office. - 3 yellow cards = 1 red card (You may know that in soccer, you're thrown out of the game when you get a red card.) Instead of speaking/correcting I'll just hand the offender a yellow card w/his name on it. There's some "shock value" with just being handed a card - and it gets other kids' attention. Of course, the cards go back to the teacher (and assistant principal if necessary) for "further attention." - I approached classroom discipline, or rather management, from an 'academic' or classroom point of view. We talked about how this was a classroom, just like their teacher's, the music, and PE rooms. - Our school had basic rules (be safe, be kind, be responsible) and I did short review of how that looks in library (does running=be safe?, bookcare=be responsible, helping others find books, bring books back on time=be kind). And that is it! Janet Gross Pinewood Elementary School Charlotte, NC jgross2@carolina.rr.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. 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