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I think there are a couple of issues that need to be considered: First, not selecting on the basis of a few words (or word choices) isn't really selecting. Are the word choices integral to the character (i.e. showing level of emotion or change in character), do they fit the tone of the book (i.e. setting and time, intent of author), or are they there for sensationalism or to attract attention? And word choice would only be one aspect of the whole selection process. Just because another book has the same words doesn't necessarily permit or deny selecting a specific book. Review the book on its own merits (or lack of). And probably need to be especially careful about comparisons with books of classic or acknowledged quality status; I think that would be an inductive fallacy. Second point; Unlike many series, the characters in HP are growing up and maturing at almost real-time (if there hadn't been a delay with #5). However, it doesn't take a year for a kid to read a book, so for the new readers just becoming able to read HP1 or 2, the characters get older much faster than the reader. At some point, there will be a disconnect between the reader's experience and the concepts or events in the book (ask the average 3rd grade boy about girls, ask the average 7th grader). Like Nayor's Alice books where she grows from elem through HS, maybe HP6 or 8 will be a middle/jr and not appropriate at a k-5 level. Robert Eiffert, Media Specialist Pacific Middle School Evergreen SD, Vancouver Washington beiffert@egreen.wednet.edu beiffert@crypticmachinery.net -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Wendy Stoll Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:48 AM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: HP5 IN ELEM MEDIA CENTER In a message dated 6/30/2003 10:18:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, twaymire@IN-MOTION.NET writes: > I have a K-5 Media Center. Many HP fans. However, the 5th book has > 'effing' and 'damn' in it Shiloh has "dammit" in it. My Brother Sam is Dead has several "damns" in it. If the kids know what "effing" means, they've heard the actual word, no doubt. I think it is ludicrous to think we can keep off the shelves everything that someone MIGHT be offended by. That's just my opinion, of course. I'm a meanie; we have so few copies of the HP books that I don't let anyone check out 2, 3, or 4 until I know they've read the previous ones. It will be the same with 5. Chances are, the kids that could read HP4 have read far worse than "effing." Good luck! Wendy Wendy Stoll, Librarian Smyrna Elementary School Louisville, KY Wendy40@aol.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-