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I just returned from a technology staff meeting (this was my first invitation to attend the committee's meeting this year--new school). The issue that the technology committee has is with students who play games on the computers rather than using them for research (no, duh!). I witnessed adults arguing two extreme measures that ended up with us not solving any problems. The issues that we face are: * blocking all Internet access except educational (we choose what we deem as "educational" * blocking only the game sites, porn sites, purchase sites, etc., based upon what "problems" we find along the way with students * eliminating the Explorer icon from the students' files, so they cannot go onto the Internet without supervision * eliminating the address bar (URL) so that students cannot type in the address of a site * using only online databases that we subscribe to and eliminating the Internet for students Each seems somewhat unreasonable and I argued that with proper instruction of all students, a K-12 information literacy program which presents students with research techniques, guided practice and collaboration with teachers on how to utilize Internet resources (including making online resource pages that teachers have their favorite websites available for student use), and the appropriate AUP with consequences we can limit some of the problems. They argued that "it would take too much training of all individuals involved." (So we let them wander around aimlessly searching for information and drowning in junk and games?) However, I believe the final verdict will be a more restricted program of computer usage on the campus (no Internet) with only online database access-- they were impressed with what I showed them (we have 25 online databases). Are there any schools that provide students with ONLY online database access? What programs do you use to block sites? Are your databases on a different server? What problems do you have? We have a filter on our system at this time (X-Stop) and teachers have access to an "overriding password" that can be used to access the blocked sites such as Amazon.com. However, students do not have this password and they do not have access to email or instant messaging. I know that when I was Oklahoma State University we had ONLY research database access in the libraries. This restricted student use in some ways but it kept those who used the computers on task without the game-playing that went on in the dormitories. I plan to contact the university personnel who were responsible for that program, just for additional information; however, I wanted to know if K-12 or middle school / high schools are doing this and how? (My suggestions were "shot down" rather than investigated and obviously, since I had never attended THEIR meetings before today, I couldn't possibly know anything about what I was talking about or suggesting.....so, I'm investigating these avenues anyway!) I'm glad there are only two weeks left of this school year... Thanks for your suggestions and ideas! ~Shonda Brisco Trinity Valley MS / US Librarian Fort Worth, TX sbrisco021@charter.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-