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Dear patient LM_Netters, I know it's been way overdue, but here is my HIT on Folletbound vs. Permabound. After all of this I asked my purchasing person about trying a new company and the procedure would include finding prices for each item from 3 different companies and then the district would compare and possibly ok or not depending on if the prices were better. I don't know if it would be worth the time. The original query was:> I thought I would tap the collective knowledge of this group for in order > to get a better understanding of the differences between these two bindings. > I currently order only from Follett, just for simplicity sake, but have been > increasingly dissatisfied with the way they hold up. The other day I > recieved some samples from Permabound, and they look just like Folletbound. > Does anyone have experience with both of these products? Which one holds up > better? Which costs more (and is it worth that amount more)? Any input > would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. I will post a HIT if > there is interest. Here are the results: --- Bound to Stay Bound holds up forever. I use to buy from Follett, but their slick covers tear and the books get distroyed so easily. The only thing with Bound to Stay Bound Books is that they don't have the selection that Follett has. I love BTSB... --- We do most of our ordering from Bound to Stay Bound Books out of Jacksonville, IL. (1-800-637-6586) We have had no trouble with the bindings. They seem to withstand alot of wear and tear. We are very pleased. --- I, too, order most of my books from Follett, and, more and more because of financial constraints, will order titles in FollettBound rather than hardcover if the price is cheaper. I can't say I've noticed a problem with their binding (since it's mostly non-fiction which doesn't get the hard circulation that fiction does) --- Bound to Stay Bound books are sewn and very sturdy. They are not slick and as colorful, but their longevity makes up for the looks. Prices are about the same. Call or go on line with BTSB.com --- believe that either one or both of these companies will replace books that are not holding up. You might look into that. --- I have not had the problems you describe with Follett--I have always been satisfied with the books I have received from them. Having said that, I must admit they are not my main supplier. I order everything I possibly can from Bound-To-Stay Bound, and if I can't get it from them, then I go to Follett. BTBS cannot be beat for quality. You can even have the jackets laminated, which I just opted to do, and they look great. --- Check the archives, I know that Permabound has been discussed before. I haven't any experience with Permabound, I use Folletbound. So far my bindings have held up pretty well, and Follet will replace if they don't. --- For what it's worth--I buy absolutely everything I can from Bound to Stay Bound. Their prices are competitive with Follet's, and their bindings are far, far superior. I have never in 12 years had to throw away a Bound to Stay Bound book because of problems with the bindings! --- At our library, we recently ordered some Follettbound books because we have been unhappy about the way that Permabound books have held up. We were considering switching to Follett. --- I usually order from both Permabound and Follett. The book I received that was glued from Follett fell apart before the book was a year old. The books I get from Permabound usually last. The Permabound rep locally is a good friend. I asked him what was the difference between the bindings for rebounds between Permabound and Follett. According to him it is the place where Follett sends there books to be glued that produces less quality. I do compare bindings available from Follett and books that I want to hold up due to high volume of checkouts I order from Permabound. Books that last even longer come from Bound to Stay Bound but I personally can't stand the outer coverings. Just too blah for me! --- I'd be very interested in a Hit on this topic as I almost exclusively order from Titlewave (Follett). It seems to me that the Follett bound sewn seem to hold up better than the Follett bound glued. Is this the consensus? --- The Follettbound and Permabound should hold up about the same. The both have "forever" guarantees which means you can call either one and ask for a free replacement any time the cover doesn't hold up or the pages start falling out. My experience with both has been that BOTH honor the guarantee easily and consistently. I don't hesitate to order Follettbound, but I prefer Perma-bound because Perma-bound books have more attractive covers. Follett's covers are better than they used to be, however. It used to be that all the Follettbound covers had white spines, which made for really yucky looking shelves. And their covers were duller. Perma-bound's books are beautifully shiny. Follett has superior customer service, and so does Perma-bound. Both have excellent MARC records. They should cost about the same. In our state (Texas) Follett doesn't give a discount, while Perma-bound gives a generous discount. You'll find that on older titles they are neck-and-neck on the price because both companies are re-binding paperbacks. However, on newer titles that are only available in trade bindings, Follett won't offer re-binds. Perma-bound will offer rebinds on the most popular of the newer titles, but you'll pay a premium because Perma-bound is taking the trade copy and rebinding it. However, you get a life-time guarantee that way, which you won't get with a Follett trade cover. --- I don't have any experience with Permabound, but I do use Folletbound, and the Follett sales rep told me something a couple of months ago of which I was not aware. If your Follettbound book falls apart they will replace it free of cost for as long as the book is in print. Christine Zafonte LMS Signal Hill Elem Dix Hills, NY sendto:czafonte@optonline.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-