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First, thanks to all eighteen of you who responded--in 12 hours! I have enough information now to move forward and help the teacher write a proposal for the PTA. In my original message, I explained that a teacher wanted to ask the PTA for a new opaque projector to project text, pictures, and 3D objects. I was pretty sure this is not an appropriate use for an opaque projector. Instead, she needed a document camera. The consensus was that she needed a camera. This person summed it up: "An opaque projector and a document camera have different purposes, although they can sometimes overlap. What does she want to do? If she wants to enlarge a picture from a book to trace it, then the opaque projector is the proper tool. If she wants to just show a picture to the class, and has a large-screen tv or video projector in the room, then the document camera is the one for her." Many suggested a Flex Cam, though one person was unhappy with theirs. A few other products were mentioned as well: "Either a document camera (generic name) or a "Viz Cam" (brand name). They are a little different, but both are excellent products." "Sandra, we have a flexcam and our art teachers have it checked out constantly! It is great for showing both text & photos and also objects and procedures!" "DocuCam or FlexCam, they are great and have many uses." "I would advise an Elmo. It is a machine that hooks up to an LCD. Through it you can show a book (like on an opaque) with colors. You do not have to make transparencies. You can just put a piece of paper on them, also." "Look on the ELMO site for presentation projectors ... they have an excellent one. Look under the section titled Digital Visual presenters." "There is a new camera from AverVision for only $379 including shipping. This one works with tv's or projectors. Available through Troxell. It folds up much more compactly then our flex cam." "Don't get a Flexcam. I have one and it displays upside down. Try instead an Elmo.What would be even better, although more expensive, is a digital projector with a document camera attached. We have the Toshiba model in our school, and many teachers like it MUCH better than even an overhead." "I agree that a flex cam is much better: smaller, multi use, can hook into a TV for good color display, etc. We have a couple Cannon Viz Cams that we really like, but I don't think they make those anymore. So our latest purchase was an Elmo." "Today I say a new video/data projector demonstrated at our SWOhio Educational Purchasing Coop. It was a video/data projector, Opaque and overhead - all in one.. Very impressive! I think the price they will bid to the EPC will be about $3,500 so it isn't cheap, but it sure was a cool new gadget." We have just purchased Avervision 100 document cameras for our science dept to be used much as you describe. They are extremely pleased with them. The only thing is, our teachers wanted to project their labs/demonstrations on the projection wall (very large picture) so LCD projectors were purchased as well. This adds significantly to the cost. Another depart. borrowed them to project a map (I think) and students viewed on the TV monitor that was already in place in the room. I was told that worked well also." Sandra Lingo, Librarian Delhi Middle School 5280 Foley Road Cincinnati, Ohio 45238 slingo47@fuse.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------