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Karen, BRAVO! I SO wanted to respond to Vaneesa's original post, but you put it beautifully! Happy Thanksgiving! Renée Renée Bishop Librarian/Liturgy Coordinator/Music Saint Peter the Apostle School Parsippany, NJ In a message dated 11/25/2004 10:20:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, LISTSERV@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU writes: Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:12:10 -0500 From: The DeFranks <knarfed@VOICENET.COM> Subject: Re: Fw: Was THE HOLY BIBLE now Christmas Traditions Dear Vanessa - I responded to the initial question about the Holy Bible with the remark about reading the Nativity story at Christmas and the person I responded to sent it to the entire group. By reading the Nativity story I'm not celebrating a birthday. I'm sharing the 2,000 year old, traditional Christmas story. And I while I know the true origins of Christmas I don't think that's really applicable to my first, second and third graders. I'm sorry you would be offended if your child went to my school. I hope you share this with your child's librarian so s/he doesn't offend you. I don't expect anyone to believe as I do - but I do enjoy sharing and loving my students. In my house we celebrate Christmas, Jesus's birth. Santa Claus brings gifts to the small ones and the rest of us give gifts to each other, in honor of the gift God gave us, his love and his Son. I read the Nativity story in school. I read Santa stories, too. I read them in December, usually during the last week of school before the Christmas holiday. That's when people celebrate Christmas. I preface the stories with, "Every family celebrates something. In my house we celebrate Christmas. We remember Jesus's birth and we give gifts to each other. Santa comes on Christmas Eve. Maybe you do something similar in your house - maybe you do something different. Isn't it great that we can share?" The nativity story does not show anyone celebrating a birthday. It is a history story from the Bible that I choose to share, like many people around the globe, with the people I love - my family and my kids at school. It's American culture. I don't say it is the BEST way to celebrate. I don't say it is the ONLY way. I say it is the way my family celebrates. I don't think it's my place to talk about a Crucifiction with first, second and third graders. It is an important story, but in the twenty or so minutes I have with the children it could also come off as gruesome and gory. Since we have the week before Easter off from school, reading the Easter story really doesn't fit in the plans. I'm glad you shared your feelings with the group. It must be very difficult to explain to your son what all the hoopla is about on December 25. I know not everyone believes as I do, and that's what makes life so interesting. Karen DeFrank -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------