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I must have grown up REALLY sheltered as I have not had any 'bad' connotation attached to sucks...however, suck is found in the dictionary in MS Word...last meaning is 'to be very bad or inferior" (slang). I have always associated it with a derogatory meaning when used as you illustrate and I would have probably been just as upset if the person had used stinks in the same reference! Barb Engvall Teacher-Librarian John Campbell Elem Selah, WA macbarb@charter.net http://www.selah.k12.wa.us/JC/jc.cfm On Oct 11, 2004, at 2:18 AM, Dawn Sardes wrote: > When I was a child, in the 60's, people, at times, used a word that I > was told was bad to use to say that this person or that thing or some > situation "sucks." > > I was told that it was okay to say that a baby "sucks" his bottle, but > not to use it in that other context. Later, although nobody actually > told me this, I surmised that it was "bad" because it was a reference > to certain acts. > > I hear this word being used in this context all the time--even on > national network television. When did this become ok? When I was > young, I got my mouth washed out with soap for using it. I taught my > kids to not use it to describe or deride a event or situation, and > especially not a person. That is what the word "stinks" is for. > > When I taught, I did not allow that use of that word in my class or > school, and was backed up by faculty. > > Today, in my public library, as we were about 15 minutes from closing, > one of our printers began repeatedly jamming (my library offers free, > unlimited printing--a "service" that is taken for granted and widely > abused and that costs us over $15,000/year, but that's another rant). > I turned it off and announced that it was broken. > > A young man came up and asked to be placed on a pc on the other side > of the library. Those pc's on that side have their own printer. > However, we have an automated sign-up system (invented by our tech > guy) that assigns pc's randomly. There is no way to make sure someone > gets a specific pc. > > When I explained that we could not do that, the young man told me that > "Your Tech guy really "sucks." > > It took all my willpower not to get up and slap him. None of my > co-workers "suck" and I told him that. Our tech guy is an absolute > wonder. He is a techie God. Then this smug, self-important > little......person...offered to come in & teach him how to properly > wire a library. I offered him Matt's card and told him to call him. > > I am still fuming. Am I hopelessly out of date in my evaluation of > this word? Am I the only one left who thinks it is wrong? I have to > admit, it is one reason I've stopped watching TV (except for news and > I even hear it there). Maybe it is not a bad word, like I have always > thought, but isn't it at least rude and inappropriate? > > > > > Dawn M. Sardes > Teen Services Librarian > Euclid Public Library > Euclid, OH > dawn511@adelphia.net > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ > LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------