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The really annoying "bad" word that was going the rounds in my school a couple of years ago was b*gger. The kids assumed that it meant someone who "bugged" someone else. Whenever I heard someone using it, I made them look it up in the dictionary. The response was usually "Oh gross!" and then they stopped using it. Diane Gallagher-Hayashi Teacher-Librarian Stelly's School Saanich School District (63) Saanichton, British Columbia Canada Diane_Hayashi@sd63.bc.ca daichan@shaw.ca "I may not be an explorer, or an adventurer, or a treasure-seeker, or a gunfighter, Mr. O'Connell, but I am proud of what I am...I, am a librarian!" The Mummy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Rettberg" <crettberg@MENLOSCHOOL.ORG> To: <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Need feedback: Bad Words > I too don't like the word and go nuts if it is used by my own kids. At > school however I have learned to roll with it - I spent 8 years in > elementary and even the kids there used it all the time. The parents > even used it! Now that I'm in a 6-12 school I don't make a big deal > about it, though if I disagree with the opinion that something "sucks" > I let them know. I do also on occasion point out (as I do for other > four letter words) that there are other, much more clever, ways to > express that opinion! "Use of four letter words indicates a lazy mind" > - yep, they are tired of hearing that! > > Cathy > ----------- > Cathy Rettberg, MLIS > Head Librarian, Menlo School > Atherton, CA > crettberg@menloschool.org > > > On Monday, October 11, 2004, at 02:18 AM, Dawn Sardes wrote: > > > When I was a child, in the 60's, people, at times, used a word that I > > was told was bad to use to say that this person or that thing or some > > situation "sucks." > > > > I was told that it was okay to say that a baby "sucks" his bottle, but > > not to use it in that other context. Later, although nobody actually > > told me this, I surmised that it was "bad" because it was a reference > > to certain acts. > > > > I hear this word being used in this context all the time--even on > > national network television. When did this become ok? When I was > > young, I got my mouth washed out with soap for using it. I taught my > > kids to not use it to describe or deride a event or situation, and > > especially not a person. That is what the word "stinks" is for. > > > > When I taught, I did not allow that use of that word in my class or > > school, and was backed up by faculty. > > > > Today, in my public library, as we were about 15 minutes from closing, > > one of our printers began repeatedly jamming (my library offers free, > > unlimited printing--a "service" that is taken for granted and widely > > abused and that costs us over $15,000/year, but that's another rant). > > I turned it off and announced that it was broken. > > > > A young man came up and asked to be placed on a pc on the other side > > of the library. Those pc's on that side have their own printer. > > However, we have an automated sign-up system (invented by our tech > > guy) that assigns pc's randomly. There is no way to make sure someone > > gets a specific pc. > > > > When I explained that we could not do that, the young man told me that > > "Your Tech guy really "sucks." > > > > It took all my willpower not to get up and slap him. None of my > > co-workers "suck" and I told him that. Our tech guy is an absolute > > wonder. He is a techie God. Then this smug, self-important > > little......person...offered to come in & teach him how to properly > > wire a library. I offered him Matt's card and told him to call him. > > > > I am still fuming. Am I hopelessly out of date in my evaluation of > > this word? Am I the only one left who thinks it is wrong? I have to > > admit, it is one reason I've stopped watching TV (except for news and > > I even hear it there). Maybe it is not a bad word, like I have always > > thought, but isn't it at least rude and inappropriate? > > > > > > > > > > Dawn M. Sardes > > Teen Services Librarian > > Euclid Public Library > > Euclid, OH > > dawn511@adelphia.net > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > > LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > > Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > > EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ > > LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ > LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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