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My original post: "I am interested in whether people who do their own cataloging prefer to build new records using Alliance Plus or MarcMagician (or some other method). Also, which product do you prefer for modifying records that are in the system but need improvement?" Thank you to all who responded. Most respondents prefer Alliance for creating new records and MarcMagician for cleaning up records. Here are the responses. I prefer the records in Alliance Plus. The hit rate is much better. I love MarcMagician for making labels, but I very seldom use it for finding records when cataloging. I use both: Alliance to download records, MARC Magician to fix them. They really are two different tools. I have not used MarcMagician, but am very satisfied with Alliance Plus. We subscribe to both the print and AV versions. The cataloging is high quality, and needs little or no editing. Alliance Plus and MARC Magician are two different things. Alliance Plus is a database of cataloging records which you can download into your system. MARC Magician is a utility program that allows you to do lots of global editing. I have Alliance Plus, but not MARC Magician in my current schools. I have had MARC Magician and liked it very much. It's a very powerful tool, but isn't really necessary unless you've got a really messed up database, in my opinion. I have both and prefer Alliance (it has more records, and it includes AV). However, I've had technical problems with Alliance on and off due to our firewall, and that's never happened with MarcMagician. I still spend a lot of time with my Abridged Dewey and Sears, and reading the back of title pages. I love Marc Magician. I use Access Marc and Magic Recon. It is a wonderful program. I also have students look up marc records from the library of congress and have them type them in and then I check them. That works fairly well. MARC magician! I use Marc Magician and I really like it. I can't compare to Alliance because I haven't used it. Marc Magician lets you catalog using a template and it has prompts with examples that makes it easy. You can also add fields if you need to. I use both. With Follett it is very easy to use and I prefer to use it. But I also use MarcMagician to clean up any records and to globally update records. I also recommend MarcAccess for a/v materials. It is less expensive than the Follett. I prefer MarcMagician and have been using it for at least 5 years. I used Alliance Plus and like it, but prefer new records and checking purchased records through MarcMagician. I also prefer MarcMagician for checking and modifying. A couple of years ago Texas had a Texas Library Connection initiative and we had strict requirements in our Marc records. MarcMagician set it up so that they would be checked for each of those required fields and we still use it today. I use Alliance as the basis for the small amount or original cataloging that I do. Mary Kenslea Library Teacher MacArthur Elementary School (at Northeast) 40 Putney Lane Waltham, MA 02452 kensleam@k12.waltham.ma.us -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------