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Must not be my students attending the UR then. I am appalled by their lack of skills --- I really see the difference between the public system who has the ability to teach skills from K-8 (assuming they have a librarian) and my students. Many of mine come from non-library (and librarian) backgrounds and one of biggest challenges is to impress the faculty of the need to use the library. My students enter the school not even knowing Dewey, much less the big 6. Some do go on to the UR - I am sure the librarians there are cursing me. Allan Dr. Allan O'Grady Cuseo (Brother Donogh Allan, MGC) Bishop Kearney High School Library 125 Kings Highway South Rochester, New York 14617 585-342 - 4000 x231 585-342 - 4694 (FAX) acuseo@bkhs.org Education in the tradition of the Christian Brothers and the School Sisters of Notre Dame FAC OMNIA BENE (Do all things well) PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION: The information contained in this electronic transmission, and any documents attached hereto, may contain confidential information that is legally privileged and confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the recipients (s) named above. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and delete the electronic message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the information received in error is strictly prohibited. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brisco, Shonda" <briscos@TRINITYVALLEYSCHOOL.ORG> To: <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [LM_NET] GEN: National Education Technology Plan / Information Literacy--venting I've come to the conclusion that all of the "tech-savvy" students attend the University of Rochester--which is where Mr. Wilder reflects upon and writes about his library patrons' use of the resources available to them and their uncanny ability to do un-assisted research on most topics without ever entering the library itself.....but... .... "Drat! Those English teachers who have failed to properly instruct the students at Rochester in writing skills (i.e., the use of information / synthesis...oops, that would be Big 6) once the information was located through unassisted Googling!" ~Shonda Brisco Trinity Valley MS / US Librarian Fort Worth, TX briscos@trinityvalleyschool.org -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Katherine A. Wright Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:51 AM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: [LM_NET] GEN: National Education Technology Plan / Information Literacy--venting I found it very interesting that as I was reading the Natl. Tech. Plan about the plethora of tech-savvy students, I spent the first 3 1/2 hours of my day giving the same, old, tired spiels on technology/info. lit. basics: "Gee, this disk is over 10 years old, it's only an 800k floppy and it has fingerprints on the disk medium; that might have something to do with why the file won't open." "There are no files on this CD, did you format it? Yes, CDs need to be formatted before you can drag and drop files. Really." "I just spent 40 minutes recovering your term paper from your on-life-support floppy with the crumbs on it, and now you are going to complain that you need to double space it and change the margins?" "No, I can't write a note to your teacher that something went wrong with your disk; according to all my diagnostic software, there has never been a file on this disk. Did you save the file to your network account? NO? " "No, the webmaster is not the author of this information, and if I were you I wouldn't use that site as source for Mr. X, it will have a negative effect on your grade. Here's a great source--well, yes, it is a book and you will have to read it. But all the information you need is right here." "Of course Robert Frost is in that book, let's try looking him up by his last name" "I think that you should skip Wikipedia as an authoritative source." Job security; and where are all those info / tech-savvy students? Katherine A. Wright Library Media Specialist Edwin H. Land Library The Norwich Free Academy 305 Broadway Norwich, CT 06360 vox: (860)887-2505 x415, x223 fax: (860)886-6854 email: wrightk@norwichfreeacademy.com "Those librarians, that's one terrorist group you don't want to mess with." -- Michael Moore -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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