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I think that the idea of Wikipedia not being a "valid resource" is almost ironic. I don't recommend the use of the website, but I have had several teachers who think it is the "living, breathing World Book of the modern world"---and I cringe. Although this site is questionable, I see the irony of discrediting this site all the while we see contradictions in the "main media" being presented to us through television, radio, magazines, and newspapers, but continue to use them as our main source for information. The idea that there is "one or two authoritative" sources above all others has become less defined. Using Wikipedia (and other sources of information, including print, television, radio, and website resources) as a teaching lesson for students to determine what is or is not valid for classroom research can also be transferred to life skills tools (something that we all need today!). For those individuals who take ALL information presented to them as "factual" there are problems. Many times, these individuals are adults / educators (who should know better, but who have grown up trusting the media / printed word). These people feel that the information presented to them should not be questioned...and that worries me more than anything else. I'm finding more students than teachers are skeptical of the information that they find. This is due, in part, because of our (librarians) instruction in evaluation procedures; however, Wikipedia is one resource that can be used to instruct not only our students but also our teachers in how to evaluate information. In fact, it might be a great in-service presentation to your faculty, especially if you find them relying on these types of websites as valid research sites. Shonda Brisco, MLIS US / Technology Librarian Fort Worth Country Day School Fort Worth, TX sbrisco021@charter.net "It can take a master carpenter to build a barn, but any jackass can kick it down....." ~Lyndon B. Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Carvin" <acarvin@EDC.ORG> To: <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:01 AM Subject: [LM_NET] Turning Wikipedia into an Asset for Schools Here's a short essay about Wikipedia I posted on my blog last night that I thought might be of interest... -andy Turning Wikipedia into an Asset for Schools http://www.andycarvin.com permalink: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2005/07/turning_wikiped.html Art Wolinsky and I went to dinner tonight just outside of Atlantic City, where I'll be leading a two-day workshop on documentary making for a group of elementary school teachers. During dinner, Art and I talked about what I'll be presenting tomorrow morning, as well as fun Internet topics such as video blogging, podcasting and Wikipedia. On Wikipedia in particular, we talked about the hostility that many educators have towards the website, particularly their concerns that it can't be considered a reliable source. It's the classic dilemma of a wiki website - because wikis allow any site visitor to edit or add content, you raise the risk of getting content that isn't up to snuff. And the fact that young and old alike often go to Wikipedia and see that its name ends in -pedia, they assume it's just like any other encyclopedia and they should take its content as vetted, accurate information, which ain't always the case. I explained to Art the community of Wikipedia volunteers known as Wikipedians who have created a system of checks and balances to improve the quality of content and avoid problems with virtual graffiti and inaccuracies. But it's not a perfect system, so it's not a huge surprise that a lot of educators just don't want their students utilizing the site. I had a flashback; a group of us on the WWWEDU email list had tried to create a "Kidopedia" - an online encyclopedia written entirely by kids - back in 1996, hosted by St. John's University. It didn't get very far because all encyclopedia entries were being posted manually by real people; that, and the fact that it was hard to articulate a compelling case as to why kids should be doing this in the first place. While I understand educators' concerns about directing kids towards "reliable" reference sources, the more I think about it, the more I think Wikipedia's flaws actually make it an ideal learning tool for students. That may sound counterintuitive, of course - how can you recommend a tool that you know may not be accurate? Well, that's precisely the point: when you go to Wikipedia, some entries are better referenced than others. That's just a basic fact. Some entries will have a scrupulous list of sources cited and a detailed talk page on which Wikipedians debate the accuracy of information presented in order to improve it. Others, though, will have no sources cited and no active talk pages. To me, this presents teachers with an excellent authentic learning activity in which students can demonstrate their skills as scholars. Here's a quick scenario. Take a group of fifth grade students and break them into groups, with each group picking a topic that interests them. Any topic. Dolphins, horses, hockey, you name it. Next, send the groups of kids to Wikipedia to look up the topic they selected. Chances are, someone has already created a Wikipedia entry on that particular subject. The horse, for example, has an extensive entry on the website. It certainly looks accurate and informative, but is it? Unfortunately, there are no citations for any of the facts claimed about horses on the page. This is where it gets fun. The group of students breaks down the content on the page into manageable chunks, each with a certain amount of facts that need to be verified. The students then spend the necessary time to fact-check the content. As the students work their way through the list, they'll find themselves with two possible outcomes: either they'll verify that a particular factoid is correct, or they'll prove that it's not. Either way, they'll generate a paper trail, as it were, of sources proving the various claims one way or another. Once the Wikipedia entry has been fact-checked, the teacher creates a Wikipedia login for the class. They go to the entry's talk page and present their findings, laying out every idea that needs to be corrected. Then, they edit the actual entry to make the corrections, with all sources cited. Similarly, for all the parts of the entry they've verified as accurate, they list sources confirming it. That way, each idea presented in the Wikipedia entry has been verified and referenced - hopefully with multiple sources. Get enough classrooms doing this, you kill several birds with one stone: Wikipedia's information gets better, students help give back to the Net by improving the accuracy of an important online resource, and teachers have a way to make lemons into lemonade, turning Wikipedia from a questionable information source to a powerful tool for information literacy. I can already see it now: an official K-12 Seal of Approval put on Wikipedia entries that have been vetted by students. Wish I were more handy in Photoshop. -andy -- ----------------------------------- Andy Carvin Program Director EDC Center for Media & Community acarvin @ edc . org http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.tsunami-info.org Blog: http://www.andycarvin.com ----------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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