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I, too, have to jump in here. The books belong to the school/district, to all of them, not just one student. In the real world which we are preparing kids for, no one says," you have such a hard life that the rules just don't apply to you" ( that's how we get big "kids" aka adults who think they are entitled to whatever they feel is good for them) Having said that, I think there are probably different scenarios for elementary and high school kids, because we should have higher expectations of responsiblity for the older students. In some way, the student, at any age, needs to be responsible. Here's what we do Follett is set to beep when a patron has an overdue book. I will say " John you have something overdue ( can't tell the title at this point) and they will invariably say "oh it's a book" (DUH!) I'll then check to see the title ( " I returned that, my friend returned that, I'm still reading it,oh it's in my car/locker, I have it here) If the book is only a day or two overdue, I will remind them to bring it in later that day or the next day. If the book is weeks overdue, I will ask them to go and get it from their locker. (I've never had a teacher object to this- one of our building goals is Responsibilty/ Preparedness) Most of the time this resolves the situation. However, our rule is that if you have overdues you can't check out anything, and we do "check out" the computers. Kids don't often care if they can't get another book but if they can't get on the computer it is a different story! This is a hard one for me because I'm basically a softy but here's how it goes. If they have a book only a day or two late or if the assignment needs to be typed and handed in today and the book is at home, I will allow them to "just this time' use the computer. I tell them that this is just one chance and if they come in again without renewing or return, they will be out of luck. I tell them that I keep track of who gets the break ( I don't really although it seems pretty easy to remember the next day when Follett beeps. At any rate this works! Very, very rarely have I ever told a kid they were off the computers until the book came back. (book is really overdue, they've had a second chance, they are doing research that can use print resources) The kids don't seem to have a problem with this. They know the expectations. The other thing that seems to work is to pass out billing notices rather than overdues. You can print either on Follett. The overdue notices are sometimes ignored, but when you send a bill that says you owe money, the books seem to come back in a hurry! It seems to me in high school, most of the overdues are just 'cause kids "forgot" or are too lazy to bring the books back, not because they can't find them. When they are very overdue, the books usually come back trashed! Just what works for us. Darlene Darlene Yasick Media Specialist Hopkins (MI) High School lib027yas@global.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------