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Here are the responses I received in reference to Turnitin.com. Thanks to each of you. We are a college prep high school and since a lot of colleges use this service, two of our teachers investigated. They got permission to do a trial subscription and were very enthused about it. We now use it for most of our student papers. Teachers get the reports and go over them. It does still need teacher corroboration. For example, a student used a phrase that Turnitin said was close to one in Sports Illustrated. Since the paper was for a chemistry class, it didn't seem likely that the student would have used SI for any reference. The teacher, of course, understood that and took that in consideration when evaluating the paper. Toni Koontz Librarian St.Charles Preparatory School Columbus,Ohio akoontz@cdeducation.org Our school uses turnitin.com, but we use it as a teaching tool rather than as a "gotcha" or punitive tool. We use it as part of the writing process to teach proper parenthetical citations. When the students have their final rough draft ready, they are required to submit their own paper to turnitin. They then get their results back with any possible plagiarism or incorrect citation issues. The students then have the opportunity to go over the results and fix any quoting/paraphrasing/parenthetical citation mistakes that have been found. After they have corrected any issues, the final paper gets handed in to the teacher. Turnitin also sends a copy of the results for each student to that student's teacher (organized by class), so the teacher can look at the initial results and compare to the final paper. We have found that it has worked very well in helping students think about what should be cited and why. It has also put more emphasis in the students' minds on original writing. We are very happy with turnitin the way that we use it. Amy Short Library Media Specialist Westford Academy 30 Patten Road Westford, MA 01886 (978) 692-5570 x2143 <mailto:ashort@westford.mec.edu> ashort@westford.mec.edu don't know of any cons --- they have been sued- but won all cases I believe... Some students sued them --- as when a paper is submitted -- the content belongs to turnitin.com. we require all papers in the school to be submitted to them -- has stopped any dishonesty totally. we love them Dr. Allan O'Grady Cuseo (Brother Donogh Allan, MGC) Bishop Kearney High School Library 125 Kings Highway South Rochester, New York 14617 585-342 - 4000 x231 585-342 - 4694 (FAX) acuseo@bkhs.org We've just purchased it for this year, so far we've found out that we don't have the updated software that enables us to scan a paper (OCR software). The students would have to submit their papers on a disk or through email. Nancy Carlson Farmington High School Farmington, CT 06032 carlsonn@fpsct.org I'm a big fan of Turnitin.com. I'm a former English teacher (now my 2nd year in the LMC), and I used to spend HOURS searching Google for proof that work was plagiarized. I advocated for Turnitin.com the first year as a librarian. I'd say the biggest problem is getting the teachers to use it. The first year it was a pretty easy sell, but as the year went on (and now this year) I don't think as many are using it as should be. A lot of them seem to have the "what I don't know won't hurt me" attitude. I've been trying to send out motivational e-mails (facts and stats about cheating to light a little fire under them). Each semester I offer training or help before or after school or their prep hours to set up accounts. Attached is a sheet one of our teachers made up to help students and teachers with the sign-up and submitting process. It's really all pretty easy, I think. Good luck with your decision! Kristy Sandel, librarian Mason High School Mason, MI 48854 ksandel@mason.k12.mi.us We started using Turnitin last January and it is working well for us. Different teachers use it in different ways. The science teacher required his students to print out the results & include that with the final copy of the research paper for his class. One of the English teacher had the students send in their rough draft & print out the results. It counted as a small % of their grade--then they could make corrections and cite things that they hadn't for the final draft. I was surprised at how well the students liked it--it gave them incentive to be honest & reinforced their honesty. I wish all the teachers would use it--but they don't. It takes a little bit of time to set a class up, but once it is done, they can access it on their own if the teacher wants it done that way. Linda Hill, Librarian Meridian High School After being begged by my English department, I subscribed to this service. After an entire year, not one teacher had used this service!!! A couple of them used it for a single paper that had been turned in--it was a terrible waste of money for me. This is in a school of over 800 students 9-12. Turnitin requires that students wilingly relinquish their copyright. Court cases have already been won by students in the US. The company is making money out of other people's copyright - main reason why Yale (or Harvard - can't remember which) where the software was developed by a post grad student, won't touch it. You cannot force students to hand over their copyright, neither can anyone else submit their assignments without permission. Article about the first court case <http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/01/21/ctv.plagiarism/> http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/01/21/ctv.plagiarism/ Out university bought it before looking into the legal ramifications and now have bit of a lemon on their hands! Students are now being encouraged to submit to Turnitin as part of their quality assurance process, but I don't think it has been very successful. I have attached an article I wrote for ACCESS earlier this year - it recommends a proactive approach to the problem rather than a reactive/punitive one. EVE2 is a Web plagiarism detector available at <http://www.canexus.com/eve/index.shtml> http://www.canexus.com/eve/index.shtml Not very expensive and the printout is also a real deterrent. :) BC Convenor for the Transforming Information and Learning Conference <http://www.chs.ecu.edu.au/TILC> http://www.chs.ecu.edu.au/TILC Barbara Combes, Lecturer School of Computer and Information Science Edith Cowan University, Perth Western Australia Ph: (08) 9370 6072 Email: b.combes@ecu.edu.au "Whatever the cost of our libraries, the price is cheap compared to that of an ignorant nation." 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