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Web 2.0 is about a lot more interactivity and breaking down of power structure. Some of what was potential in the Web 1.x has become reality in 2 Blogging makes is easy for anyone to have a voice online. While 'anyone' could have built a webpage, and changed it as often as they wanted, the reality was it was a multi-step process, involving multiple types of software and usually involved some outlay of cash. While there are ways to simplify the process, it was/ is still too complicated to entice the average web user to join in . Part of the attraction of blogging is connecting with others. Linking to someone else's output and adding your POV or opinion or just sharing it in a slightly different circle. Letting the orig poster know you discussed their post is a one-click (trackback) acknowledgment. Wikis and to a large extent CMS let all of a similar mind join in and share their input for a common good. The social group can be huge (Wikipedia), or small (a wiki for working on 7th grade SS curriculum). In either case, not only the members, but the general public can use / read the data. Somewhere in there is the 'long-tail' phenomenon; Sally talks about something, I add to it, someone else points to mine (linked to Sally's), a parent grabs it and sends it to their group, and somewhere along the way Sally winds up with another new subscriber. In Listserv land, it takes a concentrated effort to find out what everyone is thinking about some new title or censoring effort. Think about how little crosstalk there is between LM-Net, YALSA, your state LM org, technology lists (like say, Follett-Talk), and LMS students, or even our own students. And how often someone says 'I looked in the archives, but...'. Actually, the closest old web component that is '2.0' are the public bookmarks like ikeepbookmarks. They tend to be more like personal, but sharable directories. The new versions (Del.icio.us, Technorati, Furl, etc) make the sharing automatic. We can blog, then use either the categories (built into blog software) or tags to label the topics. These tags are automatically shared by the software. You label a site 'curriculum' and it is automatically added to the pool of everyone else's sites labeled curriculum. And then there are multiple ways for other readers to get updated on any new sites tagged as curriculum. Which brings up RSS and the readers like bloglines or the addins that work in email: Any blog and some wikis, any category or tag or new article or change in an article, you get notified. And it doesn't have to be a blog to add RSS; news sites, our online databases, forums, even listservs have that feature built in. So, imagine this- School Content Management Software that can notify the kids (maybe even in their m*sp*c* account or via cell) automatically when you have added something to your site like a list of new books, an updated summer reading list, a new resource guide. Or imagine that kind of connectivity for your teachers and parents. Book reviews, grades, assignments, homework help, running out of lunch money, letters from the principal. Also, the nature of the beast that is Listserv is that it is monolithic. I (and three others) moderate Edtech <h-net.org/~edweb/> Listserv - Now, 99%+ we just check for formatting and pass it through, however, we have our hot button topics, just as LM-Net does. And then we talk with the poster to make it fit our institution and our list's guidelines. We can also cut off the conversation when it wanders off those guidelines. However, many of our frequent posters, just as here at LM-Net, have educational interests beyond the scope of those lists. Or opinions that irritate. With a blog, they / we can extend the conversation started, further the thoughts, expand the debate with those who want. Also, each of their blogs/sites can focus on their specific interests, anyone can join the conversation or subscribe, or find by searching through many regular engines. Also, where does the group go if Peter or the sponsoring organization couldn't continue? My blog gets about 300 hits a day, though through RSS you don't even have to go to the site to read it. The hits are often through other blogs that note something I said and link back, through email list conversations, and through search engines. When I get geeky, the weblog shows me where they came from, how long, what else they looked at, and what link they clicked on their way out. Lots of college students, lots of hits through Del.icio.us and Technorati, many from search engine hit lists, many from a post here, a few from the archives. Before listserv, there was Usenet, Compuserv - compared to writing papers or letters, great interconnectivity. But really would be hard pressed to call them web 2.0. Remember that tagline: 'Technology will never replace teachers; but those who use technology will replace those who do not'. Just as there are many librarians not on this list (and probably some who 'don't do email'), there are many librarians who don't do RSS, read blogs or wikis. Now. But remember those hits through college servers? Robert Eiffert Librarian, Pacific MS Vancouver WA pac.egreen.wednet.edu/library beiffert@egreen.wednet.edu Librarian in the Middle Blog: www.beiffert.net robert@beiffert.net "The state can't give you free speech, and the state can't take it away. You're born with it, like your eyes, like your ears. Freedom is something you assume, then you wait for someone to try to take it away. The degree to which you resist is the degree to which you are free..." - Utah Phillips >Deborah Stafford said: >it occurred to me that our own LM_NET, >while "old technology" was/is ahead of it's time. I am thinking that >LM_NET >is actually very Web 2.0. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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