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Wow, you guys, I received a TON of responses. You all rock! There's many very good ideas listed below and they've all been so helpful to me. I'm reaching panic mode and it just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that there is such a supportive group out there! Thanks to each and every one of you!! Sandy I have been teaching P-5 library media for seven years. Last year I had 30 classes a week for 1/2 hour each. This 1/2 hour was tied to teacher prep time. I agree that three weeks between readings of the same story is too long. If I have to have a lesson span two weeks I find that I spend valuable time refreshing everyone's memory on what happened the week before. As such, I choose to read books that can be finished within 10-15 minutes. This allows about 5 minutes for discussing main ideas, themes, text-to-text, text-to-self, text-to-world connections etc. I choose picture books with strong messages which require some thought in our discussion. Some of my favorites (students loved them too) were anything by Chris Van Allsburg, Caldecott winners, Patricia Polacco, Patricia McKissack, Karen Hesse etc. My older students also seemed to enjoy analyzing and discussing characteristics of folk tales. As a result of the tight schedule the last ten minutes are reserved for browsing and checking out. Although kids at that level still love to be read to, I agree that visits that are 3 weeks apart make it difficult to stay interested. I think that you should booktalk a variety of books for that age level. I'm at the middle school level and my students want to know what every book is about. You could even have themes each visit...booktalk the different genres, new books added to the collection, award winners, sequels to other books, books being made into movies, etc. Sandy-I do read to the 5th grade. They are a group that will still sit long enough to focus. In the homeroom class they read NUMBER THE STARS (Lois Lowry) and after they finish that I always read them JACOB'S LADDER (DURCKER). They are so interested in the fact that have a girls take on WW II and Jacob's Ladder gives them the story of a boy; in a different country, but still during WW II. I think if you can find parallel stories like those, you will really have their attention. Sixth grade is a different story. In my school at least, they are "to cool". I know that the classroom teacher reads to them at the end of the day and I do think that is all they can handle of that type of activity. FYI she makes a point of always reading TANGERINE. They LOVE it and even come to the library for a copy if she isn't reading fast enough. I too purchased Judy Freemans book, but have not gotten in to the back to school mode yet! Good Luck next year. Hi. I teach 4th and 5th graders and I do read to them. I see them every week but I don't read to them each time since there are so many other lessons I need to do. I try to schedule read-alouds once every 4 weeks. Generally, I find a book that I start in September and finish in June. In between, I may use picture books that I can finish in one sitting for particular themes. One year I tried to do Maniac Magee but at 180+ pages, I didn't even come close to finishing. Now, I look for books that are around 130 pages. I know some librarians just read select chapters. I can't speak to 6th graders but most of the 5th graders still love to be read to. Hope that helps. I am currently at a JH but I was in elemetary for 15 years. If I read to the students, it was not from a chapter book...it would be something I could do in one setting. I usually taught library skills, though. I did read them the current Caldecott book, books by authors I met, folktales when I taught a folktale unit, etc. I would be interested in any responses that you receive. I will be a first time librarian for 2 Catholic elementary schools-- pre-K through 6th grade. I would like to read-aloud for 5th and 6th graders as well, but I believe it will be more difficult than for the younger ages. I will see my classes every week, so it might make it easier to sustain a 200 page book. I also plan to try "book-talking" to get students hooked on books and expose them to many titles. Also, use Reader's Theater and poetry (making mental images). Congratulations on your new job. I've been a librarian at a K4 - 8th grade school in New Berlin for 2 years. I see grades K4-5th grade for 1/2 hour once/week - and grades 6-8 once every other week. 2 classrooms per rade. - so I plan for 10 different grades - on a fixed schedule The problem I have found with reading long books to older kids - is that the kids who really like it - will check it out and read it themselves - and those who don't like it - tend to get bored after 2 read aloud sessions - so by the end of the book - nearly everyone acts bored. Last year, I didn't really read aloud any long book to 5th and 6th grade for this reason. I too use Judy Freeman's books - I have all 3 - they all have different ideas. there are tons of great picture books for that age. another idea, is to read excerpts from the longer books, just something that will hook them. If I had them on a 3 week schedule, I would consider doing book talks. Sandy, I do read to my 5th & 6th graders. I see them weekly, but that's still not often enough to get through a novel in a timely manner. What I usually do is read from a novel for 20 minutes or so for two or three weeks, then I let it go into circulation. I have read some completely, but it takes for-e-v-e-r! a series of first chapter readings to hook the kids. Hi Sandy, I typically read picture books that coordinate with their curriculum... Katie's Wish for Irish Potato Famine or Bruchac's How the Chipmunk got his Stripes for Native American Legends, etc. I can give you a list if you'd like. Hi Sandy, I typically read picture books that coordinate with their curriculum... Katie's Wish for Irish Potato Famine or Bruchac's How the Chipmunk got his Stripes for Native American Legends, etc. I can give you a list if you'd like. When I taught 5th and 6th graders I would read at least one book a year. It took months but the kids loved it. I had kids who read along as well as those who sat there mesmerized each week. Of course there was NO TALKING. Years later kids came back to school to tell me how I ignited a spark by my animated readings with different voices for each character. I do read to my 5th graders but not every week. I do library skills work in between. One of the stories I share at Thanksgiving is Outlaw Thanksgiving by Emily McCully. I do a ghost story at Halloween. I try to find books that are related to their curriculum to share with them or a biography. Tales are another good source that can be done in a class period. We also play Library related games and I do book talks with them. I do read to my 5th graders but not every week. I do library skills work in between. One of the stories I share at Thanksgiving is Outlaw Thanksgiving by Emily McCully. I do a ghost story at Halloween. I try to find books that are related to their curriculum to share with them or a biography. Tales are another good source that can be done in a class period. We also play Library related games and I do book talks with them. Confession time. I was a h.s. English teacher for several years before switching to the library..... Could the reason for the switch have been the never-ending supply of compositions to read each week. OK, I am not going to confess everything to a TOTAL STRANGER........ After about 20 years as a h.s. teacher, when the school combined with another (both rural Iowa schools), I discovered that my job would involve the elem. library as well.... For the first couple of months, I read to all of the kids, grades K-5..... At that point, one of the 4th grade teachers said to me, "Are you ever going to teach them any library skills?" I was dumbstruck. In library grad. school, I had had a course in library management--for high school only! I did not take the one for jhs or elem, assuming I'd never have any students from those areas. After the question from the 4th grade teacher, I radically changed my elem. program, pretty much eliminating reading books to the kids, as ALL of the elementary teachers were reading to their kids for around 20 minutes each day. I had no idea I was duplicating their efforts. If you are a total newbie, as I was, I'd suggest having a conference with each teacher to discuss what they'd like to see you teach while the kids are in the library. The first year, I had a quickie conference that was used ONLY to schedule the library visit. I learned a lot that first year! Hi Sandy, I'm going to be a first year librarian too. I also purchased Judy Freeman's book and have been reading it. Any suggestions you get I'd love for you to do a HIT or send them my way. I'm going to have two schools, a PreK-1 and a 5th-6th grade building. I'll see the kids every other week and my assistant will handle checkouts on the weeks I am not there. I see 5th graders for 45 minutes each week. I read lots of picture books to them. I usually only read 1 "chapter book" a year - How to eat fried worms to 4th graders and another (whose title I can't think of right now) to 3rd graders. There are lots of upper level picture books that work well with older students. I usually do several Russian folktales, especially Baba Yaga, with them. I also do historical fiction - Polacco's Pink and Say, Mochizuki's Baseball saved us, Heroes, and Passage to freedom are some suggestions. Congratulations - I too was a classroom teacher. Going to the library was the best professional decision I have ever made... My teachers really wanted me to focus on specific SOL's. I do read to the students but only once a month in grades 3-5. I usually have 2 or 3 books and do a brief book talk on each. Then I let the students vote on the book they want to start. I read that day and then tell them if they want to finish the story they have to check it out and read it themselves. :) Congratulations - I too was a classroom teacher. Going to the library was the best professional decision I have ever made... My teachers really wanted me to focus on specific SOL's. I do read to the students but only once a month in grades 3-5. I usually have 2 or 3 books and do a brief book talk on each. Then I let the students vote on the book they want to start. I read that day and then tell them if they want to finish the story they have to check it out and read it themselves. :) Book talk the books and use selections to read aloud. There are some great picture books that go with the curriculum such as Pink and Say for the Civil War. I love Judy's book because it gives great subject listings in the back and each book listed also gives other books that can relate to the entry title and ideas to use the books. If you don't have the main one mentioned, you can find another from her book and do similar activities with the kids. Also, kids love Reader's Theatre and those are listed. Toni Buzzio on this list has lots of ideas for reader's theatre and soon will come out with a book on it. If you get the magazine Library Sparks you will find reader's theatre in each issue.She suggest giving kids copies so they can practice the scripts and then perform it for the class after practice. Another fun idea is to do choral reading with poems for two voices or adapt some for choral reading and allow time for kids to practice their parts and the perform them. An extension might be to have them write poems for 2 voices. Also, don't forget to do some skills connected to the content. Lots to try and not enough time. Good luck, Just saw your very nice post about my new baby, Books Kids Will Sit Still For 3, AKA The Awful Book. Thanks so much for letting people know about it. I spent 3 intense years working on it, and I'm so gratified to hear you're enjoying it. So what about those 5th and 6th graders? Well, no, you can't really spend too much library time reading one book aloud, that's very true. I was trying to find where I addressed that subject in my earlier books, and then I remembered it was in the first book, BKWSSF, published in 1990. There's a chapter called "A Chapter or Two May Suffice," about reading chapters and bits from fiction books. Someone asked if I could do an updated version of that chapter for the new book, but I was already just about done the text (which was too long as it was & then the publisher needed to cut chapters, so I couldn't think about adding anything new anyway), and I agree, it would've been a good thing to have. Ah well. You can't have everything, I guess. I lam always on the lookout for great chapters, pages, or even paragraphs to read aloud to older kids, along with lots of booktalking, of course. I'm just now working on an article about just that very subject for School Library Journal's Curriculum Connections, a supplement they put out 2X every year, and here's what I wrote: "While librarians don't often have time to read aloud an entire fiction book, they can "sample"--reading aloud a memorable chapter, a page, or even a paragraph. When you find a book you wish you had time to read aloud, try this. Offer it to a teacher you know will enjoy reading it aloud, but with a proviso: "I'd like to start this book with your class." In the library, read the first chapter or two aloud, booktalk and hand out other titles with the same author, genre, or theme, and then relinquish the book to the teacher to continue in the classroom. Every time the children see you in the library--or in the hallway--they'll want to "talk book," which will provide an extra bond with the class." The first chapter of Richard Peck's The Teacher's Funeral; the first chapter of The Lightning Thief, when Percy goes to the Met Museum in NYC on a class field trip & his math teacher turns into a harpy & tries to kill him; the first chapter of The Tale of Despereaux--look for excerpts that will pull kids in. Lots of drama, humor, suspense. "Can I have that," is a line you'll hear a lot. The books in my Fiction Booklists chapter are wonderful read-alouds, sure, but also great read-alones. If I do another volume of the book in a batch of years--and my husband has promised to take me out & have my head examined if I do--then, yes, I'll add a chapter about that. In the meantime, 17,000 folks on LM_NET might have some VERY good suggestions, so be sure to post a hit. (And yes, you can include my note in your e-mail if you like.) Best of luck with the new job. (Do read the chapter "17 Things You need to Know to Be a School Librarian" for some good, practical advice.) I'm betting you'll have a blast. As an introduction to a genre or an authoror a new purchase, read a great chapter from a book or a few. You can introduce it and then read the most interesting one. Booktalk the chapter books. Show them webpages for the authors. Read some of the picture books to them. There are lots of great ones these days for older kids. Punctuation Takes a Vacation is one that comes to mind. Also a great one I have (Drummer Boy?) about the Civil War. There are some good picture books for older kids these days that tie into the curriculum. And also get into the illustrations with them. Talk about medium, style, etc. Of course, you'll also want to teach reference skills, unless you're lucky enough to have some time in your schedule to collaborate and do projects. I don't really so I try to at least expose them to the almanac and some other things. You really can't do much teaching once every three weeks. Booktalks and picture books are probably your best way to go. Oh, yes, I was about to say have fun and that reminds me. Play games with them. They love book character guessing games, dictionary relays. I'm sure there are some good ones in the lm_net archives. And do have fun! If it's fun for you, then it's fun for them! You don't have time to read to them. You'll be too busy teaching them information literacy! :) I would share this book with their teachers who probably have reading a book aloud scheduled into their classroom time. Or, maybe start an after school listening club? Congratulations on a new position! I hope you find many things to enjoy with your new job. I have been a school librarian for several years now, and I read aloud to grades k-5. Our 6th grade does not include library in their weekly schedule, they visit for research purposes only. As for reading aloud to 5th/6th grade, I'd say DO IT!!! I almost always choose books which we will not finish in one period, and this works just fine. Over Christmas break we do not see each other for several weeks, and sometimes due to other scheduling conflicts we may not see each other weekly throughout the year. I always start the 2nd time reading a book (and perhaps in your situation, each time) doing a quick review of the book. Many times there is a student who can fill us all in very well and quickly and then we pick up in the book where we left off. If you find this doesn't work and/or want a change, I've found that my students really enjoy a selection of "wise" picture books. If each of the picture book titles is within the same theme and you can somehow match this to what they are working on in class, it really is revealing and enriching for all. This is also a great way to get the teachers onboard and involved with what you are doing in library during each visit. I hope this helps and please let me know if you have any other questions! -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/sub/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------