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I wasn't going to say anything with this thread. I tend to talk too much anyway. I couldn't help myself as I am tired from too many classes and it is cold outside and I just read David's post about a pending ice storm in MO - so here are my thoughts - My head tends to swim when we discuss terminology. I guess it was all those years in the 60s 70s and 80s when we coukdn't figure out who we were and where we worked and all those conversations (starting in library school) about whether we were a profession or not. I tend to call the OPAC the catalog or the online catalog or the card catalog - depends on what I think of first. It is called the OPAC (online catalong) on the students' laptops. I also call the space the Library and myself a Librarian. Allan Dr. Allan O'Grady Cuseo, MGC Director of Library Services Bishop Kearney High School | A Golisano Education Partner 125 Kings Highway South Rochester, New York 14617 585.342.4000 x231 585.342.4694 (fax) www.bkhs.org College Prep. Plus. -----Original Message----- From: "Maury Brown" [mbrown4@K12ALBEMARLE.ORG] Date: 12/07/2007 12:49 PM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: [LM_NET] Question and Thought regarding Card Catalog I agree with you completely! Why shouldn't it be called the library database or the library search engine. And our course is now called technical processing of materials. Shouldn't we call it processing, not cataloging? Maury Brown Western Albemarle High School Crozet, VA 22932 Mbrown4@k12albemarle.org ____ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:01:45 -0800 From: Amy Watkins <amywatkinsreads@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Question and Thought regarding Card Catalog This has been on my mind for several days and now I am asking for your thoughts on the matter. Our district continues to use the term "card catalog" for students who access the library resources from any library computer within many schools. My question/thoughts about the matter are: 1. Are students now even more confused? Where are the cards? Where is the catalog? This online feature doesn't resemble anything like what they associate with the word catalog. Are we teaching terminology to all students which does not have an association to them? 2. Would it be more helpful to students to use terminology that they can understand? Are we isolating libraries from children & teens who are unclear about our terms? Card catalogs have virtually disappeared during their lifetimes unless they go to a public library in which they are still utilized along with their online features. 3. If I (we) were to change our terminology, what would be best? When students see an icon should it read "Library Resources" / ______(name of school) Library / Library Books and More? Other ideas needed!! 4. We use Destiny and it is so much more than the old traditional card catalog with the customized library webpage with links to more resources. In my mind, this is similar to asking a teen to call an IPOD a tape recorder. Although there are similarities, technology has brought us so much further. 5. Is "cataloging" then to be considered an outdated term - in which only librarians use? Thoughts please! Amy Watkins Librarian and Activities Director Central Middle School Lawton, OK awatkins@lawtonps.org amywatkinsreads@yahoo.com Amy --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:03:42 -0800 From: Angela Symes <angela@SYMES.TV> Subject: Re: What are we reading I am reading Animal, Vegetable, Miracle: A Year of Food Life by Barbara Kingsolver. The family spends a year eating only what grows near to their home, raising some of their own food and working with neighbors and other farmers for the rest. It has fascinating and horrific information regarding food, American food culture (what food culture? McDonald's?) and what is takes to create the food we eat. For example, it takes 9 energy calories to produce and ship one food calorie in America. Angela Symes, Librarian Hudson International Studies Magnet School Long Beach, CA angela@symes.tv ~*~*~*~ Ancora imparo ~*~*~*~ -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 11:10:10 -0500 From: Sharon Hamer <shamer@HYDE.EDU> Subject: What are we reading? =20 I just finished "The Road" by Cormac McCarthy and "Upstate" by Kalisha Buckhanon. "Upstate" was an epistolary book that just didn't ring true to me.=20 Sharon Hamer Librarian, Hyde School Woodstock, Ct. 06281 860-963-4726 "Each of us is gifted with a Unique Potential that defines a Destiny" Joe Gauld, 1966 HYDE =20 Preparation for Life -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 11:23:47 -0500 From: Kirt Winslow <winsler2003@HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Target: We're thinking of Moving to North Carolina - need advice and help! Hello All: =20 My husband and I are seriously thinking of packing up and moving to Charlot= te this summer. I told him I could get the best advice and inside scoop fr= om my trusted friends here. If you live in the area or are familiar with i= t, please help me with the following questions - and there may be more to c= ome. If you don't mind being a contact for these, please let me know. Thi= s is a HUGE decision for us and I want to make sure we make the right one. = I've been joking that we can just move back if we have to - but that's not= so easy.... =20 1) Biggest concern - job. How are the prospects for a New York State certi= fied, Masters degree completed School Librarian and Art Teacher? If I can'= t get a school library job, are there public library openings available?? =20 2) We are looking at living, for now, in the area around Charlotte - namely= Matthews. Is this a good choice? Are there better options? We are looki= ng for a three bedroom apartment in a nice area, convenient to the city, ho= pefully around the 1000 dollar range. =20 3) How big of a culture shock/change is this going to be for two people who= have always lived in tiny upstate NY? =20 4) What are the school systems like? Health insurance? Retirement system? S= chools to avoid working for, schools that would be awesome to work in. I h= ave had previous problems, so I am looking for a good place to work. I am = also looking for info on what it would be like for an art teacher, so if an= yone can get that scoop, I would be extremely grateful! =20 5) Anything else, good and bad, you have to say about the area that will h= elp me make this decision. =20 I know there will be more questions to come, but this is at least a start f= or us. Thank you in advance to everyone! =20 Jaclyn Adler SLMS in search of a job Upstate NY winsler2003@hotmail.com =20 _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE= ! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_1 120= 07= -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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I unchecked auto-rotate and I've also left it checked but I can't get then to print correctly. Before I call Ren Learn, has anyone else had this problem and how did you fix it? Thanks. Heidi Kaiven Media Specialist Brass Castle Elementary School 16 Castle St. Washington, NJ 07882 908-689-1188 x.614 kaivenh@warrennet.org This email has been scanned for viruses. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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