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Thanks to everyone who replied. Here's a HIT for my original inquiry: Short summary: I need to decide how large of a poetry collection is appropriate and would appreciate input from other Elementary librarians on how large of a collection they have (relative to their overall Dewey holdings). Responses: The Anchorage School District has invested heavily in poetry collections. One resource that I recommend for your consideration in collection development of this interest is "Poetry in literature for youth by Angela Leeper. I found it to be invaluable. I've been in the same elem library for over 25 years now. My poetry didn't move either - and I kept purchasing new suggested titles (a few a year). Three years ago a new, young teacher said I didn't have any good poetry. I objected - but then realized that most of that collection was shabby - or old and the new (would be borrowed) ones blended in and weren't borrowed. I weeded everything shabby. then I weeded collections that I was keeping because they had good poems in them (wow, I was late in realizing the Internet would provide those). What was left is being borrowed - by students and by teachers. I'm still not happy with how Dewey handles poetry for Elem students. The numbers just don't make sense. I've tried several different ways of organizing - and must standardize before I retire! However, I'm still thinking about that. The average age of my entire collection is 1991. There are 211 items in the 800s with 153 of them in the 810s. That means that out of the 800 section 72% is in poetry. The average age of the 800 section is 1990. I'm not sure I will be of much help then since my collection is out of date. Every year in April (National Poetry Month) , I take a majority of the poetry books and have each student in every grade from 2nd through 7th, memorize a poem. I let them browse, then choose a poem that's at least 6 lines (we are not eager readers here). They make one copy for themselves and one for me and then next week we start with reciting. The younger they are the better they do, but I had two fifth graders this year who were finally keen and enthusiastic because they could remember their successes from the previous 2 years. (I've stopped using Silverstein because too often the pictures are necessary to understand the humor/purpose of the poem). With older grades I also study the different kinds of poetry and have them write their own. Somehow this year, poetry is in the curriculum and I was told to purchase a fair number of poetry books, mostly anthologies and some Prelutsky. And that anthology that Caroline Kennedy chose, as if that's a major selling point. If they are "stories in rhyme" I feature them especially in April with the little kids. Some of the older anthologies, from the 50s through the 70s, are not attractive to the students of today. My father memorized lengthy poems, but that was half a century ago. These days kids just need to be surrounded by them and Child's Garden of Verses doesn't have to look dusty!! Since it is summer, I don't have access to tell you how many poetry books we have but it's a fairly large number. I'm sorry they don't get used more, but at least they are available! My suggestion would be to weed the older anthologies and any from before 1980. And make sure "stories in rhyme" is a subject in your on-line catalog. Very useful for the teachers! If you have a computerized system, you could do a collection analysis and that would indicate if you need to add to poetry or not. It would also indicate the age of the collection (poetry) and which are the oldest. I hope this helps. When I got to my school the poetry section was rather small. My first school had a large section that was used all the time. Currently, our section is not used a lot but we do have some good selections. I'm all about simplifying my library while still teaching information location skills. Because books stores, and even some public libraries, are getting away from Dewey, I have stopped being a slave to it. Consequently, poetry collections are all placed in 811. That way, I can teach my students the 100 groups and a few specific numbers (811, 92, 796, 398.2, etc.) and be done with it. I have one, 4' long shelf packed with poetry. I also have a display rack that holds about a dozen books with a display sign that reads "Picture Poems" through which I rotate the visually appealing poetry books from the E section (like Casey at the Bat and The Spider and the Fly). To increase my students interest in poetry, I often use a poem as a lesson introduction/warm-up - like Kipling's "Six Honest Serving Men" when teaching the 5W's and an H questions and newsapaper articles. They frequently ask where I got the poem, giving me an opportunity to show them all the 'cool stuff' in the 800's. Poetry is a hard sell in elementary school, and as in most things, it needs a cheerleader teacher who is passionate about teaching her brood about its pleasures. It's a lot more difficult if you are the only one suggesting it; but if you decide to champion this, you could read a different poem each visit, or encourage young poets to read their poems aloud, etc. Begin with humor, then seasons and holidays, and then follow your heart. Our collection of about 10,000 has less than one shelf's worth of different books, and it's enough for us. I would certainly first consider poetry with artwork (a.k.a. some picture books) that engages more of the senses. perhaps first standardize the labeling so that it a browsable collection- all my poetry is 811 by author. Why isn't your poetry circulating to kids? Are you reading aloud poetry in every class? are you helping them to memorize short and fun poems? who is your favorite poet? perhaps an author's study. Do you give them time to write their own? What do you do to celebrate poetry month? Are your poetry books all ratty old collections from the 1960's? Weed away. Do you have an abundance of Kristine O'Connel George, Doug Florian, Nikki Grimes, Marilyn Singer...? Have you read aloud Once I ate a Pie or selected a few fun ones for the kinders out of Here is a Little Poem edited by Jane Yolen? Lane Young lyoung@nscds.org Lower School Librarian and Technology Coordinator North Shore Country Day School Winnetka, IL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------