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I suspect that that's not a typical student's approach. That level of fascination with the numbers involved sets off my "on the Asperger's spectrum" radar. I'd want another sample before I judged the school. Susan Jones Academic Development Specialist Center for Academic Success Parkland College Champaign, IL 61821 217-353-2056 sujones@parkland.edu Webmastress, http://www.resourceroom.net http://bicyclecu.blogspot.com >>> Betsy Ruffin <Betsy.Ruffin@CLEBURNE.K12.TX.US> 2/25/2009 11:16 AM >>> I wish I could say that's not it, but in schools heavily into AR I suspect it is. I've had campuses I've had to struggle with to keep good non-AR books in the library (I am one of two overseeing seven elementary libraries) because "they won't read them if they are not AR". I've also seen students who wanted to read something else but campus policy wouldn't allow it until all AR points for the benchmark period were accumulated. Perhaps the question for librarians is: Given the AR reality, how do we as librarians pick up the slack, let kids know that reading involved more than AR (and state testing requirements) and can actually be fun! >>> Ken Umbach <Ken@UMBACHCONSULTING.COM> 2/25/2009 10:06 AM >>> I spent an hour or so yesterday at a Borders book store wandering among the shelves and chatting about books with the eight-year-old son of a friend. He talked endlessly about reading levels, mentioning AR frequently, and citing 3.3s and 2.6s and the like, and invariably referring to the number of pages in books he was reading, or had read recently, or that classmates were reading, or in the books he picked up from the shelves in many sections of the store. In all of that, he said not one word about content. Nothing about characters, plot, ideas. Nothing. Just reading level. Nothing to suggest why books are worth reading. Is that typical of schools' approach to reading these days? Is that the message being conveyed? Or is that young man's view unusual? Feel free to reply off-list, to ken@umbachconsulting.com, rather than to the list. (FWIW, for those who wonder why I am here . . . for years I worked for the California State Library, and in that capacity I wrote some widely circulated policy reports that had a connection to school libraries, as some members of LM_NET might recall. Also, for a few years I had an occasional column in Knowledge Quest, about policy and data resources on the Web. I am also the author of the notorious parody about California's mythical Velcro crop, still widely used by teachers and librarians as a kid-friendly example of a deceptive Web page.) Regards, Ken Umbach ------------------------------------------------- Kenneth W. 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