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Paula Joseph-Johnson raised this question His question to me: Does the educational value of Wikipedia outweigh the potential pornography to which students *could* be exposed? With a background in journalism and definite opinions about First Amendment rights, I am conflicted at this point and would love input from others. The only time there was an actual assessment of the ability of filters to actually block porn - done by the Kaiser Family Foundation - they found a 10% failure rate when intentionally accessing porn. That did not take into account the ability of people to bypass the filter. Google: "bypass Internet filter." So ask yourself what is the degree to which students "could be exposed" to porn whenever they use the Internet. So I do not have any statistics, but I would lay odds there is less likelihood of students being exposed to porn on Wikipedia than just surfing the Internet. And although there was apparently porn in the Wikipedia Commons, this is different than Wikipedia - and with the exposure and pressure by funders of Wikipedia, this is being cleaned up. I have also heard about Wikipedia being blocked because of concerns of credibility - because of the user-generated content. Let's think about this. I found this interesting quote many years ago: "The effort to pull ideology out of schools is evident in battles over history textbooks. ... (M)ost students read carefully censored books. The pursuit of 'neutrality' often leads to censorship. The American Textbook Publishers Institute has counseled publishers 'to avoid statements that might prove offensive to economic, religious, racial or social groups or any civil, fraternal, patriotic, or philanthropic societies in the whole United States.' Textbook manufacturers appear to have responded in some cases by deleting materials reflecting cultural differences that might have offended someone. Interest group pressures from diverse ideological camps have resulted in the deletion of materials that would undercut the perception of an American monopoly on decency, as variously defined. Business interests have occasionally intervened in textbook selection to remove materials considered hostile to the "American system." American policy is sanitized. Books rarely report questionable government action. ... Perhaps the most striking feature of history textbooks is that they minimize the role of dissent in our history. Government decisions that appear decent or beneficial are often portrayed without any of the political controversy that created them." Gottlieb, In the Name of Patriotism: The Constitutionality of 'Bending' History in Public Secondary Schools. 62 N.Y.U.L.Rev. 497, 504 (1987). This was before the Texas History Book Massacre. Let's consider the credibility of material posted on web sites owned by a company or organization. The only person who can post material on my web site is me. The only people who can post material on the MartinLutherKing.org web site is Stormfront. How do we help students understand that they will always need to think carefully about the credibility of material found ANYWHERE? Who is providing us with credible information about the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico? Wikipedia has user-generated content. This is very different than the kinds of sites where someone controls everything that is posted. But how different is this from what students are going to face just about anywhere they go in the Web 2.0 world? Bottom line: assessing the credibility of information presented has always been a challenge - will always be a challenge. It was a challenge before the Internet. But lots of people never paid attention to this - because of the presumption that textbooks are credible. The credibility of information posted on sites established by individuals, organizations, companies is only as good as their personal integrity and "agenda" - which can range significantly. Wikipedia presents a different kind of credibility challenge. Students are going to rely on Wikipedia for research when they are working on projects at home. They will rely on it at college. How the heck are you going to teach them how to assess the credibility of this information if you do not have access at school? Did you know that the first "copyright" law was a grant by the crown to publishers of exclusive rights to the books they published (not the writers) in exchange for the right of the crown to review and censor what got published? Nancy -- Nancy Willard, M.S., J.D. Center for Safe and Responsible Internet Use http://csriu.org nwillard@csriu.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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