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Excellent response! Thank you, Nancy Willard! Terri L. Street, School Librarian Longfellow Middle School Norman, Oklahoma tstreet@norman.k12.ok.us "Never judge a book by its movie." -- J. W. Eagen On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Nancy Willard <nwillard@csriu.org> wrote: > Paula Joseph-Johnson raised this question > > His question to me: Does the educational value of Wikipedia outweigh the > potential pornography to which students *could* be exposed? With a > background in journalism and definite opinions about First Amendment > rights, I am conflicted at this point and would love input from others. > > The only time there was an actual assessment of the ability of filters to > actually block porn - done by the Kaiser Family Foundation - they found a > 10% failure rate when intentionally accessing porn. That did not take into > account the ability of people to bypass the filter. Google: "bypass Internet > filter." So ask yourself what is the degree to which students "could be > exposed" to porn whenever they use the Internet. So I do not have any > statistics, but I would lay odds there is less likelihood of students being > exposed to porn on Wikipedia than just surfing the Internet. And although > there was apparently porn in the Wikipedia Commons, this is different than > Wikipedia - and with the exposure and pressure by funders of Wikipedia, this > is being cleaned up. > > I have also heard about Wikipedia being blocked because of concerns of > credibility - because of the user-generated content. Let's think about this. > I found this interesting quote many years ago: > > "The effort to pull ideology out of schools is evident in battles over > history textbooks. ... (M)ost students read carefully censored books. The > pursuit of 'neutrality' often leads to censorship. The American Textbook > Publishers Institute has counseled publishers 'to avoid statements that > might prove offensive to economic, religious, racial or social groups or any > civil, fraternal, patriotic, or philanthropic societies in the whole United > States.' Textbook manufacturers appear to have responded in some cases by > deleting materials reflecting cultural differences that might have offended > someone. Interest group pressures from diverse ideological camps have > resulted in the deletion of materials that would undercut the perception of > an American monopoly on decency, as variously defined. Business interests > have occasionally intervened in textbook selection to remove materials > considered hostile to the "American system." American policy is sanitized. > Books rarely report questionable government action. ... Perhaps the most > striking feature of history textbooks is that they minimize the role of > dissent in our history. Government decisions that appear decent or > beneficial are often portrayed without any of the political controversy that > created them." Gottlieb, In the Name of Patriotism: The Constitutionality of > 'Bending' History in Public Secondary Schools. 62 N.Y.U.L.Rev. 497, 504 > (1987). > > This was before the Texas History Book Massacre. > > Let's consider the credibility of material posted on web sites owned by a > company or organization. The only person who can post material on my web > site is me. The only people who can post material on the > MartinLutherKing.org web site is Stormfront. How do we help students > understand that they will always need to think carefully about the > credibility of material found ANYWHERE? Who is providing us with credible > information about the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico? > > Wikipedia has user-generated content. This is very different than the kinds > of sites where someone controls everything that is posted. But how different > is this from what students are going to face just about anywhere they go in > the Web 2.0 world? > > Bottom line: assessing the credibility of information presented has always > been a challenge - will always be a challenge. It was a challenge before the > Internet. But lots of people never paid attention to this - because of the > presumption that textbooks are credible. The credibility of information > posted on sites established by individuals, organizations, companies is only > as good as their personal integrity and "agenda" - which can range > significantly. > > Wikipedia presents a different kind of credibility challenge. Students are > going to rely on Wikipedia for research when they are working on projects at > home. They will rely on it at college. How the heck are you going to teach > them how to assess the credibility of this information if you do not have > access at school? > > Did you know that the first "copyright" law was a grant by the crown to > publishers of exclusive rights to the books they published (not the writers) > in exchange for the right of the crown to review and censor what got > published? > > Nancy > > > -- > Nancy Willard, M.S., J.D. > Center for Safe and Responsible Internet Use > http://csriu.org > nwillard@csriu.org > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings > by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. > To change your LM_NET status, you send a message to: > listserv@listserv.syr.edu > In the message write EITHER: > 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET > 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL > 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST > > * To contact an LM_NET Moderator: LM_NET-request@listserv.syr.edu > * LM_NET Help & Information: http://lmnet.wordpress.com/ > * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/join.html > * LM_NET Supporters: > http://lmnet.wordpress.com/category/links/el-announce/ > * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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