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7 Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 12:02:22 -0500 From: zzdrus@acc.wuacc.edu (druse judy) Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb Linda, I am so thankful that we had smart barcodes as we pulled them off sheets and pla ced them in the books, especially since students did most of that work. It cert ainly helped to get the right barcode in the right book. Now we generate our ow n dumb barcode Judy Druse Curriculum Resources Center Washburn University Topeka, KS 66621 zzdrus@acc.wuacc.edu -------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 12:29:57 EDT From: <U5359@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU> Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb Hi, Linda! Greetings from West Virginia! We went through a bar coding project about 2 yrs a go, so I know what you're facing. We used smart bar codes because the bibliogra phic information was already attached to the bar code, therefore avoiding the p ossibility of Sincerely, Nancy Sloan Fairmont State College Fairmont, WV --------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 12:42:07 -0400 (EDT) From: SUSANCN@dsl.rhilinet.gov Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb Linda : smart for the books already in your colection, but every library needs s ome dumb ones for original cataloging. Susan coleman susancn@dsl.rhilinet.gov ------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sooton@nde.unl.edu (stephen ooton) Subject: RE: Barcodes Date: Wed, 25 May 94 12:48:49 CDT Having worked with both kinds of barcodes and some 40 library/media centers duri ng their automation processes, I have a really strong preference for dumb barco des. The "info" on the barcodes serves little purpose, since the information i s on the book Steve ooton Panhnadle Library System pls@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us ------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 13:24:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Debbie Athanases <athanasd@belnet.bellevue.k12.wa.us> Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb We used smart barcodes for all our current books, after the retrospective conver sion, and dumb barcodes on new acquisitions. -------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 10:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Marjorie McPherson (503) 687-3186" <MCPHERSON@4j.lane.edu> Subject: Smart or dumb barcode labels Oh boy, what a topic! We started an in-house retroconversion project with generic MARC records, which meant we used dumb barcodes. For each book, we ne eded to search the database for the record and scan INTO the record the dumb la bel which we p We abandoned this method when we discovered Catalog Card Company, which pro vided matched MARC records and printed smart barcode labels. Much faster! In our current cataloging, we use OCLC and dumb barcode labels. We'll be trying an experiment with Baker & Taylor, which will provide match ed records and smart barcode labels affixed to the books. So our 40-some school s will receive from the supplier, books already cataloged, processed, and ready to check out Marjorie McPherson, Cataloger Eugene School District 4J Eugene, Oregon mcpherson@4j.lane.edu --------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 19:53:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Melissa Davis <mbdavis@tenet.edu> Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb We print our own "smart" barcodes, using our laser printer and software from our automation vendor, Winnebago. If you have to buy the labels I'd probably recom mend dumb ones. You really need to think about how you're going to process new materials to make this decision. Smart labels would be easy to buy for existing collection but y ou'll have to be sure the number assigned on the label matches the one in your system! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Melissa Davis Librarian Splendora Middle School Splendora I.S.D. P O Box 168 Splendora, TX 77372 Internet: mbdavis@tenet.edu PHONE: (713)689-2853 CompuServe: 75146,771 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 21:15:13 -0500 (CDT) From: JYL CHICKOWSKI <jwolf@tenet.edu> Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb To: Linda Greengrass <LINDAG@BNK1.bnkst.edu> If a vendor is converting your shelflist, I would definitely have smart barcodes . Specify that the eye-readable part of the barcode show call number, author, title, volume number or year (for serials and sets) and accession number (if yo u have them). The great disadvantage to dumb labels is that you have to bring all your books t o the terminals to scan them in. That involves searching for the record and ma king sure you find the right one. Could be a very time consuming job dependent on the number Good luck with your project! Jyl M. Chickowski Supervisor, Library Technical Services Spring Branch ISD, Houston, Texas jwolf@tenet.edu --------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 21:20:07 -0400 (EDT) From: PAUL VENANCIO <PAULVO@ids.net> Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb The difference between "smart" and "dumb" barcodes is simply one of being specif ic to a certain book/title (smart) or just a barcode without title/call no. inf ormation (dumb). If you are sending a shelflist out to a conversion vendor, you genrally reci Best wishes, Paul Venancio (paulvo@ids.net) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 21:34:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Betty Dawn Hamilton <bhamilt@tenet.edu> Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb Yes, please do post your results. We have dumb bar codes for the initial barcod ing. After that, I'm not sure what I will order. Hearing from others may help me decide. Betty Betty Hamilton <bhamilt@tenet.edu> Voice: (806) 637-4523 Director of Library Media 701 Cub Drive Brownfield High School Brownfield TX 79316 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 23:24:33 -0500 (CDT) From: JayD <jnelson@access1.speedway.net> Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb Dear Linda, I just couldn't resist putting in my two cents in response to your query. Typica lly, the terms "smart" vs "dumb" as relates to barcode labels simply indicates whether the label includes only the barcode and number (dumb), or has the Title , Author, and/ Regards, Jay D. Nelson Educational Solutions, Inc. (800) 443-3229 P.S. Please pardon the overt bias. ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 9:06:25 -0500 (CDT) From: BIGWOOD@lpi.jsc.nasa.gov (DAVID BIGWOOD 486-2134) Subject: Barcodes Linda, I would very much to hear the results of your question on barcodes. We have just sent off our records of a retro and in a few months must make a decision on barcoding. Smart barcodes would be a good way to inventory our collection. The smart wo uld not need to be linked, which could save time. We would then switch to dum b for ongoing cataloging. Thoses are my impressions beforehand. Sincerely, David Bigwood bigwood@lpi.jsc.nasa.gov ------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 12:42:58 -0500 From: jperkins@po-1.star.k12.ia.us (J. Perkins) Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb Whether "smart" or "dumb" make certain that you have the capabiltiy to print you r own. The independance is worth whatever it takes to be able to do them inhou se. J. Perkins, Media Specialist Media Center jperkins@po-1.star.k12.ia.us Urbandale Middle School ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 14:17:33 EDT From: ERIC02@SUVM.SYR.EDU To: lindag@bnk1.bnkst.edu Linda - if your shelf list is accurate, get the smart barcodes! I like having t he class number (dewey) on the barcode, plus author/title. But if your shelf list is the pits(!), don't bother with smart barcodes. They will be too frustr ating. I sp We've done it both ways. email: eric02@suvm.syr.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 23:05:36 -0500 (EST) From: Ellen Louise Ashcraft <ashcraft@memex.lib.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb To: LINDAG@bnk1.bnkst.edu Dear Linda, We are using Surpass/2 from Educational Solutions. We let the system assign the barcode number, then print them as a group with a laser printer. Having th e title printed on the barcode makes match-up easier. Ellen Ashcraft _________________________ Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 13:27:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sandra L. Doggett" <sdoggett@umd5.umd.edu> Subject: Re: Barcodes - Smart or Dumb You will probably need both. We sent our shelf list out to to entered on disks by Follett. They sent back smart bar codes. This is definitely easier but mor e costly. Then we needed a supply of dumb bar codes for the books that were sk ipped or new i -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 20:51:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MOPKHLM@delphi.com Subject: smart/dumb barcodes For the main conversion smart barcodes are probably best. otherwise you will end up attaching a bar code number to every book in your (or item) library. Smart b arcodes are already att ached. Then we use dumb barcodes on stuff you have to get that does not have electronic records purchsased with it. If youcan purchase electronic records, it is worth it to get smart barcodes also. Judy Listrom MOPKHLM@delphi.com u + ,